close passing prosecutions
- Thread starter lutonloony
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Electric_Andy
Heavy Metal Fan
- Location
- Plymouth
Agree. If a policeman sees it happen then fair enough. If someone records it happening with a helmet camera, and happens to be looking right at the time, they stand a chance. But 90% of the time, it will be a cyclist reporting it with no evidence other than their own interpretation.
Let's be positive though. At least if there's a threat of being "done by the rozzers", it might stop some people close passing?
wheresthetorch
Dreaming of Celeste
- Location
- West Sussex
On BBC News website now:
West Midlands Police target drivers too close to cyclists - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37384899
The comment from ROSPA is disturbing: "Ideally cyclists would not need to mingle with traffic on the roads". So whose roads are they then? Oh yes, the motorists'. Bastards.
West Midlands Police target drivers too close to cyclists - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37384899
The comment from ROSPA is disturbing: "Ideally cyclists would not need to mingle with traffic on the roads". So whose roads are they then? Oh yes, the motorists'. Bastards.
Arjimlad
Tights of Cydonia
- Location
- South Glos
In these instances, my local police have taken action by visiting the (shocked) driver & giving stern words of advice, based upon the pictures & reviewing the video footage. With the blue Renault, they asked if I wanted them to consider prosecution. Perhaps camera footage would be enough ?
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
It's probably a hangover from the bad old "Cycling Proficiency Test" where future sideswipe victims were told to ride "about two feet" from the kerb, but it might also be working backwards from the 2m minimum cycle lane width in Local Transport Note 2/08 and some others, adding 25cm to allow pedals to clear the kerb and then deducting the 1.5m passing distance.
Either way, it's not good.
DRM
Guru
- Location
- West Yorks
Surely the law in France that should you hit a cyclist, you are immediatley at fault would give these numpty motorists food for thought, and encourage them to pass properly.
Big Andy
Über Member
- Location
- Huddersfield & Leicester
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
Yes, which was that the picture doesn't actually illustrate its caption.
irw
Quadricyclist
- Location
- Liverpool, UK
I think the idea is that you would generally leave (for sake of argument) 1.5m between your car and the one you are overtaking. Therefore, you should leave 1.5m between your car and the cyclist you are overtaking. If you had to leave a car's width everytime you overtook a car, all roads would need three lanes!
DaveReading
Don't suffer fools gladly (must try harder!)
- Location
- Reading, obvs
+1
The clue is in the word "space". It's not saying that a driver's positioning on the road should be identical whether they are overtaking a bike or another car, but that they should allow the same clearance (as a minimum) in either case. I can't see how the graphic supports any other interpretation.
Big Andy
Über Member
- Location
- Huddersfield & Leicester
I would hope so, however if you have a ruling thatcsays he is automatically at fault it is then a problem.
PhilDawson8270
Veteran
It may work in other countries. But I am personally against the introduction of any legislation that places automatic or implied blame on any part before an investigation.
Big Andy
Über Member
- Location
- Huddersfield & Leicester
I agree. A very slippery slope.
