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Dawes Galaxy Range-Differences?

Discussion in 'Touring and Expedition' started by Magna, 29 Jan 2008.

  1. Magna

    Magna New Member

    Further to the Thorn vs Galaxy Ultra thread, what's the difference between the galaxy models. Is it discernible? Is it worth the money?:thumbsup:
     
  2. Bigtallfatbloke

    Bigtallfatbloke New Member

    Good question...I'd like to know as well. All I know is that when I got my Galaxy I changed the saddle and the pedals almost immediatley...Brookes and spds. The bike was supplied with a selle italia saddle which was dangerously painful even on short rides, and the pedals were to narrow for my feet and caused numb spots.
    I think I am correct in saying that the 'higher' models are supplied with a brookes saddle...but it cant be just that that warrants the price difference.
     
  3. Tony

    Tony New Member

    Location:
    Surrey
    There are three Galaxy models, and IIRC, the Galaxy and Super have the same frame, with a horizontal top tube, while the Ultra has a sloping top tube, in the older ranges. http://www.ctcshop.com/dept.jsp?dept_id=3401 is a link to the modern range, where it is the other way round, with Super and Ultra sharing the newer frame.
     
  4. vernon

    vernon Guru

    Location:
    Meanwood, Leeds
    Look at the drive train, gear changers, saddle and wheels for the difference in spec.

    As one moves up through the range the spec improves.
     
  5. Maggot

    Maggot Veteran

    Location:
    Cheddar

    This is exactly why you need to sit on things and try them out. I have a Specialized BodyGlove saddle on my mtb, which I have always found to be extremely comfy. I then sat on the standard Rolls Galaxy saddle which came with my Galaxy, and I could not believe how much more comfy that was!!!!! Different arses etc. Try a few out, see what suits. I guess it's the same with compact frames vs horizontal top tubes, and just about all the other components. The Galaxy has bar-end shifters, which I fretted about, but they work great, and not at all awkward to use, the other models have STIs, which I believe are more prone to problems when compared to the bog-standard bar-ends, but if you are never going to be too far away from civilastion, theres no problem.
     
  6. Bigtallfatbloke

    Bigtallfatbloke New Member

    what difference does a sloping top bar make compared to a horizontal one?
     
  7. Achilles

    Achilles New Member

    Location:
    Wiltshire
    Noting that the 2008 Galaxy is changing the angle of the top bar to be more ( but not totally) horizontal.
     
  8. Chris James

    Chris James Über Member

    Location:
    Huddersfield
    It means the manufacturer can get away with fewer sizes of frame ....

    Um, sorry. I meant to say that the smaller triangles of the frame make it stiffer for hillclimbing!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_frame

    I doubt there is much difference in ride between sloping and horizontal top tubes in practice. I wouldn't know though as I have only ever had horizontal tope tubes as I don't like the look of the compact frames.
     
  9. Tony

    Tony New Member

    Location:
    Surrey
    Exactly.
     
  10. LondonCommuter

    LondonCommuter New Member

    Can anyone explain the difference between the 631 and 853 frames? The 3 galaxies now all seem to have the same (sloping) frames. I've tried asking Dawes but they've only referred me to the Reynolds website, which isn't all that helpful .... unless you're a metallurgist I guess.

    I understand the 853 is "better" but I'm not sure in what way, other than more expensive. Will it last longer? Weight doesn't seem to be a difference as the weights on the Dawes website are similar.

    I think I prefer the shifters on the super galaxy but I'd expect more than that for an extra £250.
     
  11. Chris James

    Chris James Über Member

    Location:
    Huddersfield
    853 has a higher tensile strength than 631. Which means that the frame can either be made stronger for the same wall thickness, or (as is usually the case) the frame can be made slightly lighter by using thinner section walls.

    The density of different steels is basically the same, so unless radically different wall thicknesses are used then the approximate weights will be similar. Certainly differences in spec of the wheels and drive chain will make just as big a weight difference.

    The corrosion resitsnace of both steels will be very similar.

    Sometimes people talk about differences in ride quality between different steels but that is more down to the tube dimensions than the materials used.

    I am pretty sure that I have seen quotes from Mercian that most people go to them anticipating buying an 853 and end up buying a 631 as it is just as suitable and cheaper! Dave Yates seems to favour 631 as a standard too.