Manchester people on bikes......

[SavageHoutkop]

Depends if you design the lane properly or not. The design of this one *was* quite good and is potentially being watered down to being a silly, unsafe design.

 

[PhilDawson8270]

I don't want to behave like traffic.

If you're using the road you ARE traffic.

Behaving unlike traffic is likely why you have so many conflicts, riding too near the kerb.

Ride like traffic there will be less close passes, less door zones, better visibility for people pulling out, as they're looking where the traffic IS.

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

If you're using the road you ARE traffic.

Behaving unlike traffic is likely why you have so many conflicts, riding too near the kerb.

Ride like traffic there will be less close passes, less door zones, better visibility for people pulling out, as they're looking where the traffic IS.

I'm not convinced that some people on here understand just how busy the 'curry mile' area is. I've cycles it a few times during rush hour traffic, and it isn't something I'd like to do regularly.

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

The lanes are for novice or nervous cyclists. Why did you call those who choose not to use them louts?

Wow, just wow.

 

[PhilDawson8270]

I'm not convinced that some people on here understand just how busy the 'curry mile' area is. I've cycles it a few times during rush hour traffic, and it isn't something I'd like to do regularly.

I certainly know how busy curry mile is. It's not a fun road in a car nevermind on a bicycle. But it is certainly not a road I would try and ride in secondary position!

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

I certainly know how busy curry mile is. It's not a fun road in a car nevermind on a bicycle. But it is certainly not a road I would try and ride in secondary position!

Who said they did?

 

[PhilDawson8270]

Who said they did?

@SavageHoutkop Saying that he dislikes primary, and suffers from lots of close passes.

I was making the connection between very busy roads like curry mile, and remaining in secondary. Vs being traffic in Primary.

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

@SavageHoutkop Saying that he dislikes primary, and suffers from lots of close passes.

I was making the connection between very busy roads like curry mile, and remaining in secondary. Vs being traffic in Primary.

ah, I missed that, but tbf, close passes would happen in that area even if one was in primary. For some reason the driving standards seem to drop and there's a lot more Mr Wheelers (the oldies will get the Disney reference).

 

[glenn forger]

Wow, just wow.

Um, ok. Fancy answering the question now? If you ride around with this massive chip on your shoulder I think I know why you don't enjoy riding.

 

[SavageHoutkop]

If you're using the road you ARE traffic.
Behaving unlike traffic is likely why you have so many conflicts, riding too near the kerb.
Ride like traffic there will be less close passes, less door zones, better visibility for people pulling out, as they're looking where the traffic IS.

By 'conflict' I mean drivers getting angry that you are in the middle of the lane.

 

[SavageHoutkop]

I certainly know how busy curry mile is. It's not a fun road in a car nevermind on a bicycle. But it is certainly not a road I would try and ride in secondary position!

I don't. I didn't ride that route before the installation of the new lanes, I used alternates. I wouldn't ride it (at all, primary or secondary) before then.

 

[SavageHoutkop]

ah, I missed that, but tbf, close passes would happen in that area even if one was in primary. For some reason the driving standards seem to drop and there's a lot more Mr Wheelers (the oldies will get the Disney reference).

It was never passes that were the issue there it was idiots deciding they actually were going to turn / uturn / park / reverse / whatever, especially in the evenings. Mornings usually few issues.

 

[SavageHoutkop]

@SavageHoutkop Saying that he dislikes primary

I'm a she.

 

[PhilDawson8270]

I'm a she.

Apologies

 

[PhilDawson8270]

By 'conflict' I mean drivers getting angry that you are in the middle of the lane.

I'd rather drivers be angry and me be safe, than them pass close but be happy.