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Discussion in 'CycleChat Cafe' started by Spartak, 29 Jan 2012.

  1. ceepeebee

    ceepeebee Über Member

    Holland - Germany final - can't separate them, so Germany on pens

    England to go out to Spain in the quarters. Ireland miss out on the quarters on GD.
     
  2. mangaman

    mangaman Guest

    Looks like Rogers for Liverpool now

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18235961

    I'm surprised he's going for it - and the Swansea board must be, as he bought a player for £6.8 million a few days ago.

    I think it's a real shame for Swansea. I don't know who they'll get - either gamble on a promising young manager from the lower leagues or some middle-ranking old pro who always seems to be available, like Alan Curbishley or Steve Bruce. I'd like to see them give a young manager a go - but the risks surely outweigh the benefits.

    BTW - Germany for the Euros (or France)
     
  3. dellzeqq

    dellzeqq pre-talced and mighty

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    I don't think he will go for it. Reading between the lines it looks like Martinez turned them down because of van Gaal. Rogers said he wasn't interested in the Chelsea job, so I'd be surprised if he goes to Liverpool.
     
  4. ianrauk

    ianrauk Tattooed Beat Messiah


    Also can't see the fans taking to him either.
    With their 'big club' mentality they will want someone more high profile the Rogers.
     
  5. Inertia

    Inertia I feel like I could... TAKE ON THE WORLD!!

    Ive given up believing anything in the papers, as Liverpool have said absolutely zip publicly, its a great time for papers to make stuff up. Does anyone even have a source to attach to the shopping list that was touted at the start of this, or anything?

    If we believe the reports Van Gaal is off the menu now so Rodgers is favourite even though they havent even spoken to him yet, AFAWK
     
  6. dellzeqq

    dellzeqq pre-talced and mighty

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    they have that with van Gaal. I can't see why they don't give him the job and hire an assistant with a view to having the assistant take over.
     
  7. bof

    bof Senior member. Oi! Less of the senior please

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    I think Croatia for the Euros may be worth a bet on 66-1 (IIRC as I last saw them), especially with the latest betting scandal affecting the Italian team who they play in the group stage. Some pretty tasty players, especially Modric who at his best can really get his team buzzing.

    Anyone see the Panorama program on Ukraine and Poland supporters - worse than English grounds were around the time of Heysel and the national authorities and police in denial going "Racism, what Racism" - I think there might be some very ugly scenes during the Euros.
     
  8. bof

    bof Senior member. Oi! Less of the senior please

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    Gus Poyet?
     
  9. dellzeqq

    dellzeqq pre-talced and mighty

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    well - how wrong can you be. Apparently Rogers has signed. I think he's mad to take it on, but, hey. he'll not be out of work when he leaves.

    Swansea get £4 to £5million compensation
     
  10. Scruffmonster

    Scruffmonster Senior Member

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    I agree, but how sad is it that you can say 'Mad to take it on' about the Liverpool job?

    I think his style will suit Liverpool*, if he's lucky enough to get a fit Lucas to start the season with, thats going to help immensely.

    *They have the players, but the fans may not love it.
     
  11. The owners demand a top four finish, they probably haven't got the team to do it. FSG don't care about the FA Cup, the Carling Cup or the Europa league because they don't care about the game at all, they just want Champions League football money and anyone who doesn't deliver will be out on their ear.
     
  12. RedRider

    RedRider Über Member

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    Lambeth
    The noises coming from LFC (in the form of an official website interview with John Barnes) imply Brendan Rogers could be relatively expendable compared with a director of football who oversees continuity and a 'way of playing' philosophy from youth team up.

    John Barnes:

    The club hired a new PR/communications man just before this interview was published. It's an interesting read for Liverpudlians.
     
  13. musa

    musa Über Member

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    Maybe his passing style will suit Liverpool. Get downing to do flipping work
     
  14. ianrauk

    ianrauk Tattooed Beat Messiah


    Spot on
     
  15. StuAff

    StuAff Silencing his legs regularly

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    I think some of these judgements about FSG are both somewhat harsh, and somewhat premature. Yes, they're after money (as, contrary to some opinions, football is a business, for better or worse), but it is early days yet. The days of financial doping in football a la Abramovitch, let alone Sheik Mansour, are coming to an end, and it's going to be a case for all clubs of business on and off the pitch being more grounded in reality (as opposed to paying £50m for out-of-form players). Given what they've achieved in Boston (recent downturn in Red Sox form notwithstanding), I don't think it's beyond them to turn LFC around. No, the whole Kenny thing wasn't handled well, along with many things..but they seem to be moving the right way. And, frankly, why not Brendan Rodgers? He fits in with the way FSG want to run the club (which bears more than a passing resemblance to the traditional 'Liverpool' way, AFAIK) and the style of play FSG & the fans expect. There's a thin line between success and failure, as Kenny found to his cost, but this could be a very shrewd move.
     
  16. RedRider

    RedRider Über Member

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    Listening to him talk and watching the way Swansea played last season he seems a good 'fit'. Looking forward to watching his Liverpool team.
     
  17. ransos

    ransos Guru

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    Swansea had a terrific season, but was that down to Rogers, or was he capitalising on the foundations laid by Martinez?
     
  18. Inertia

    Inertia I feel like I could... TAKE ON THE WORLD!!

    Id say both, from what I know Martinez left, they had defensive frailties, they got Souza in who improved that side of it at the cost of attacking and Rodgers came in and balanced the two. He also took them into the prem which is no mean feat.
     
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  19. ransos

    ransos Guru

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    Could well be. But if we're looking at Rogers, why wasn't Lambert considered? Successive promotions with Norwich, and he took Wycombe to the league cup semis.
     
  20. Inertia

    Inertia I feel like I could... TAKE ON THE WORLD!!

    Well I think if I could figure that out I'd make some money, there are some great managers out there who will never get the chance, why do the same names crop up again and again? The press plays a part in bigging up some people and ignoring others who deserve a shot.

    Id guess that Rodgers has a more impressive CV though, he worked at Chelsea under Mourinho, he has traveled around Europe a bit to Barca and Ajax too. I read a good article about him the other day, word of warning, its a bit long.

    http://www.theliverpoolword.com/201...he-makes-sense-as-the-next-liverpool-manager/
     
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