A blow for Scottish independence

glasgowcyclist

Charming but somewhat feckless
Location
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An SNP majority is a guarantee of another independence referendum.
Nice to see the tories finally concede the reality of the coming independence referendum.
 
View: https://twitter.com/ScotTories/status/1389220146632437763


They only said this because they know that an outright SNP majority is far less likely than a SNP minority government with pro-independence support across a number of parties.

An interesting quandary, makes me think about reconsidering my SNP/Green stance.
The Torys will never do anything about rebuilding the Scottish economy if they have any influence. More likely they will try to cause as much destruction as possible of our economy to try to make us dependent on England for handouts while they are milking every penny out of us for themselves.
I would never dream of voting anything other than both SNP or SNP/Green.
 

Slick

Guru
I'm just listening to gorgeous George about 15 minutes behind everyone else but he's threatening to carve up Scotland if any single area votes against independence. :eek:

Got to love him, even if someone needs to tell him to take his hat off whilst inside.
 

Edwardoka

Serene Doge
Well I for one am shocked* that Nipper Salmond's rag-tag coterie of freakish fellow travellers would do such things!

*not shocked at all
I made the mistake of looking at Patrick Harvie's mentions on Twitter.

God, what a mess. The out-and-proud bigots are unpleasant but tolerable - they leave it all on display.
It's those that use the language of reasonableness to attack and demean that are most insidious. It's a perfect vector for radicalisation.
 

Joey Shabadoo

My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
I made the mistake of looking at Patrick Harvie's mentions on Twitter.

God, what a mess. The out-and-proud bigots are unpleasant but tolerable - they leave it all on display.
It's those that use the language of reasonableness to attack and demean that are most insidious. It's a perfect vector for radicalisation.
During my brief flirtation with politics I saw the workings of the main parties up close and in some detail. The Tories and Labour were surprisingly friendly to each other - as if they knew each other inside out and a set of ground rules had been drawn up. Some of the Tory's more enthusiastic supporters were a bit weird and some of the Labour ones were quite angry people but all of them were biddable and pleasant enough. The Socialist party that Tommy Sheridan was leading and the other Socialist party led by Colin Fox were very angry people, you could feel the hate from them at the hustings and they tried to bully anyone who didn't cheer for their leaders. They really, really hated each other though. The Greens were a bit distant and strange - they would arrive late for meetings and didn't really speak much or engage with those around them. The LibDems were absolutely wired to the moon. UKIP really were the BNP in blazers and the BNP frankly made your flesh crawl. I was at a count when the BNP guy stepped forward to say his few words at the mic. As one, all the other candidates left the stage before he could speak and the howls and jeers came from the various political activists. I was quite close to the stage, maybe 20ft from him and had a moment when I looked up and saw him staring at the hecklers, sweat running on his forehead from the TV lights and he was loving it, loving the hate and feeding on the energy. I'm really not exaggerating when I say a shiver run down my spine. I truly believe he was an evil man.

The SNP were different - their officials and senior volunteers were very professional and efficient - absolutely focused and when you met them you could feel them assessing you, weighing you in the balance and if you had something to offer the smiles appeared but if you didn't, you absolutely ceased to exist for them. But some of their followers were borderline deranged, absolutely obsessed. The ones that could hold a conversation always turned it to perceived grievances with the Union. The others saw the world in black and white terms - with them or traitors, nothing inbetween.

Very Scotland-centric of course and filtered by my own bias but I think it illustrates that political supporters can be strange fellows indeed.
 
Years ago when I was more active in politics we used to go out leafleting and canvassing.
Of the other parties we met the communists were the nicest and labour were the pits. The tories did not live in the real world but the liberals had no morals whatsoever. They would go round and tear down everyone else's posters and put theirs up in place. There was a general unspoken agreement that you pushed you own side but tearing down posters or removing leaflets was not helpful to anybody. The liberals could not grasp this concept.
 

Joey Shabadoo

My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
Years ago when I was more active in politics we used to go out leafleting and canvassing.
Of the other parties we met the communists were the nicest and labour were the pits. The tories did not live in the real world but the liberals had no morals whatsoever. They would go round and tear down everyone else's posters and put theirs up in place. There was a general unspoken agreement that you pushed you own side but tearing down posters or removing leaflets was not helpful to anybody. The liberals could not grasp this concept.
I've heard that from a few people, that the LibDems were the worst at shady electioneering practices.

Communists are the best for getting drunk with - they know the best drinking songs.
 
A little local stooshie. Jesse Rae is standing in my constituency as an independent but his name has been mis-spelled on the ballot paper as 'Jessie Rae'.
He claims voters have been put off because they'll think it's a woman and not him. :laugh:

For those who don't remember Jesse, here's a wee video. BTW he still dresses the same way - he used to turn up at the buroo to sign on dressed like that.

 

Joey Shabadoo

My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
A little local stooshie. Jesse Rae is standing in my constituency as an independent but his name has been mis-spelled on the ballot paper as 'Jessie Rae'.
He claims voters have been put off because they'll think it's a woman and not him. :laugh:

For those who don't remember Jesse, here's a wee video. BTW he still dresses the same way - he used to turn up at the buroo to sign on dressed like that.

Wasn't he trying to establish a Pictish nation at one point? ^_^
 
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