Cable locks for front wheel

Discussion in 'Components, Accessories and Clothing' started by Funtboy, 15 Jun 2008.

  1. Funtboy

    Funtboy Well-Known Member

    Location:
    London via Jarrow
    Hi all, I'm about to fork out for some locks for my new bike. I'm pretty much settled on a Kryptonite New York 3000 as a D lock but was wondering if any of you had a recommendation for a cable lock for the front wheel.
    May be this one?

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=9630

    I'm also thinking of replacing the quick release mechanisms on my wheels. Are Pinhead the only people make those components?

    Cheers...
     
  2. mootaineer

    mootaineer New Member

    Location:
    London

    Pitlock also make them (and I may be wrong but I think they may have got there before Pinhead) http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=11712&src=froogle
    They also used to make seat bolts and stem bolts but not sure how easy they are to find.

    As for locks, if you're using a cable lock anyway here's what the late Sheldon Brown said about them...recommending the NY Mini because it was difficult to get tools inside the "U" to force it open:
    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html
     
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    Funtboy

    Funtboy Well-Known Member

    Location:
    London via Jarrow
    That method un-nerves me but I can see the logic. Do you use it?
     
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    Funtboy

    Funtboy Well-Known Member

    Location:
    London via Jarrow
  5. fossyant

    fossyant Ride It Like You Stole It!

    Location:
    South Manchester
    I go through the rear triangle near the hub, so have wheel and frame and sheffield stand filling the D-Lock...then a 10lb chain lock as well though....
     
  6. mootaineer

    mootaineer New Member

    Location:
    London
    Well...I've been toying with the idea of moving towards the Kryptonite Mini and a cable.
    At the moment I ride around with an ABUS City Chain X-Plus which is great (but rather heavy).
     
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    Funtboy

    Funtboy Well-Known Member

    Location:
    London via Jarrow
    I'm looking for a more portable solution really as regards the chain. 10lbs is heeeeaaavy. I guess in your case it's permanently locked to the sheffield.
     
  8. ufkacbln

    ufkacbln Guest

    You can place a "U" lock around the rim / tyre within the rear triangle quite safely. It is difficult to cut through a rim, tyre and tube.

    My system is a Abus Granit X54 with the Krypotonite cable seen abone, but with a separate disc lock which is then locked to the front carrier as well as the cable. Wheels are allPitlocked.

    Idea is that you have to have a jack for the "U" lock, and cutters for the cable. Even if you cut the cable, the ends are still secured to the bike bythe lock.

    The more tools you need the less likely an opportunist will make off withyour bike.
     
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    Funtboy

    Funtboy Well-Known Member

    Location:
    London via Jarrow
    Okay I'm getting the picture. Thanks all.
     
  10. Nick1979

    Nick1979 New Member

    Location:
    London (SW11)
    I don't really understand this method: if someone cut the wheel, they can get away with the frame without having to break the U lock? Or am I missing something?
     
  11. GrahamG

    GrahamG Veteran

    Location:
    Bristol
    Cables are just too easy to cut - pitlocks are fantastic, just need to add a 14mm spanner to the too kit. Try www.hubjub.co.uk, they'll order in any combination of bits you need.
     
  12. Nick1979

    Nick1979 New Member

    Location:
    London (SW11)
    So isn't it best to put the U around both the rims and the chain stay (I think it is possible even with a mini U)?

    Also, does the insurance cover the loss if the lock is not broken?
     
  13. OP
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    Funtboy

    Funtboy Well-Known Member

    Location:
    London via Jarrow
    Hi all, I'm glad this has been bumped as I need further advice.

    Sheldon method appeals completely to my logical side but unfortunately my irrational side won't let me go with it.

    I have decided to go for a NY 3000 D lock and will fill the D with wheel, seat tube and post (hopefully) I nearly went for a fahgettaboudit but I felt that it might not always fit around the three elements named above.

    *Question 1 - Has anyone had trouble filling the D with the 3000 or another similar sized lock?

    For the front wheel I see that a lot of people using cables as a secondary deterrent. I figured that I might get a NY Evolution mini lock instead. The reason being that cables can be snapped with ease. I have heard people arguing that you should use two different types of lock but realistically that only applies if the cable is one of those super heavy cables, not the cables supplied in, for example, Mr Paul's solution...

    http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/...1_productId_231103_langId_-1_categoryId_31389

    Mr Paul, I'm not slagging off your solution, just trying to explain my logic. I just think a jacker will have cutter for this type of cable so the 'two tools' theory wouldn't apply.

    *Question 2 - How is my logic so far? I can get the two locks named above for £63.90 all in.

    Seats and forks? Hmmm, those component locks seem the way forward don't they but I'm already pushing the 10% rule for buying locks. What to do?

    Anyway, I would dearly welcome people's thoughts, cheers.
     
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    Funtboy

    Funtboy Well-Known Member

    Location:
    London via Jarrow
    Ooh, nice point, I never thought of using the chain stay.

    *Question 3 - can mini locks such as the Fahgettaboudit do this?
     
  15. HF2300

    HF2300 Insanity Prawn Boy

    Anyone ever have problems getting mini-Ds round objects (stands, fence posts, whatever)?

    Thinking of getting the Kryptonite Evolution mini-D plus either a good chain or a good cable (Abus Steel-O-flex, probably), but the mini-Ds look awfully small.
     
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