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gingernuts66

Active Member
Location
Standish
Im looking to insure the family bikes as we now have 5 mtbs in the household. I have worked long and hard to treat the missus and kids to some quality kit and would be devastated if we lost them so with this in mind does anybody know of a good company who would insure them all at a competitive price?
 

caimg

Über Member
I use cycleguard...
 
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gingernuts66

Active Member
Location
Standish
I dont mind what they stipulate just as long as the costs are ok, thanks for the info its much appreciated and I will check them out
 

musa

Über Member
Location
Surrey
Have you tried your home insurance? Cycle guard can be expensive and not VFM. Most recommend CTC/BC for £15 /yr
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
Search for "cycleguard" - it's been discussed before. Musa - if you're expecting your £15 to protect you against theft you'll be sorely disappointed.
 

caimg

Über Member
Search for "cycleguard" - it's been discussed before. Musa - if you're expecting your £15 to protect you against theft you'll be sorely disappointed.

Indeed.

I think I pay about 6 quid per month on cycle guard, and that's for 2 bikes against theft and damage. That also includes third party liability up to a cost of £1 million.
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
Im looking to insure the family bikes as we now have 5 mtbs in the household. I have worked long and hard to treat the missus and kids to some quality kit and would be devastated if we lost them so with this in mind does anybody know of a good company who would insure them all at a competitive price?
via your household contents insurance?
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
Here's what I wrote a couple of weeks back to disentangle the insurance minefield:
Insurance purchasers need to distinguish between:

* Third party liability. Designed to pay out if someone sues you. Most people seem to get this via CTC or BC or an affiliated club.
* Theft, accidental damage etc. Designed to compensate you for the cost of the bike. Most people have this to some extent via a household policy - a lot seem to pick their household policy specifically for this cover. It comes under the contents section, so it is available to people who rent rather than own. It is also available standalone, but that seems to be thought of as an expensive route.
* Personal accident. Designed to pay out if you get injured. Not many people have this, and not many companies offer it specifically for cycling.
* Breakdown cover. Designed to get you home after a breakdown or incident. Few people have this; at least one railway company offers it to ticketholders.
* Travel insurance. Designed to pay out in the event of injury or financial loss while on holiday. A standard travel policy may in some circumstances pay out if a bike tour has to be abandoned.
* Legal expenses. Designed to pay for legal fees if you need to sue someone else. Most people seem to buy a "no-win no-fee" policy after any incident if their lawyers think there's a reasonable prospect of success.

People need to do their own research. What's best for one person may well not be best for another. Prices can vary wildly. Different companies have different policies and different approaches to settlement. And read the wording of the policy carefully, with advice if necessary!

For the record - I have CTC membership, so third-party liability cover; theft and accidental damage via my household contents section; annual travel insurance which doesn't exclude cycling holidays. I work for an insurance company, which provides some of those products.

Mods - is this enough of a FAQ for a sticky?
 

Hugo15

Über Member
Location
Stockton-on-Tees
Have a look at Marks + Spencer Home Insurance.

M&S isn't as good as it used to be. The T&Cs for new customers now require you to specify bikes with a value greater than £1,000. They have kept the old T&Cs for existing customers (no need to specify unless over £4,000) but it makes me wonder whether they will just hike up the costs to get people on to the new T&Cs.
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
I don't know how to link to a specific post in Velopoly, so here's Charlotte's post on M+S insurance - she did get the bikes back, by the way!
http://velopoly.com/

Home and contents insurance rip off from AXA via Marks and Spencer – claim refused

Posted on 28 February 2011
Following the theft of eight of our bicycles last week, the response from the readers of this blog, as well as hundreds of people on Twitter, Facebook, YACF, Cyclechat, LFGSS and various other forums has been awesome. I don’t think I’ve had as many page views as I had for the post I made on the 24th and it’s amazing to see the way that the cycling community comes together when someone asks for some help. So thank you to everyone; Julian and I are really grateful.
Although our search for the missing bikes continues, I thought I’d post and tell you about the Insurance company. Like a lot of other cycling households, we have our house and contents cover provided by Marks and Spencer. They were recommended to us for their high quality cover and good customer service. M&S insurance offers a lot of benefits to cyclists, including a high value for each cycle and unlimited cycles on the policy. It’s a bit pricier than other cheaper insurers, but with around twenty bikes between us, including a Santana tandem, we wanted good cover so we were happy to pay for it.
When I took out the policy a couple of years ago, I specifically asked whether we would be covered in our rented garage one street away from the house. They said yes. I was so concerned that I asked for a letter to be sent to me that made mention of this and thankfully we still have that letter in our files.
When I called up the claims line after we discovered the burglary, we were initially told that we weren’t covered at this address because we were in the process of moving house. Julian had called them to arrange transfer of our policy from the old place to the new place and informed them of the date of the move. Despite us still living at the old address when I claimed last week, they had our electronic records as the new address so they said we weren’t covered.
Needless to say, once the situation was explained (at length – this took a number of phone calls) this was sorted out. The address was right, we did do what we were supposed to do. However…
The man on the end of the phone explained to me that “on this occasion Miss Barnes, we’re sorry to say that we won’t be able to take this claim forward any further…” (don’t you just hate the weasel words these people use?)
He went onto explain that although we were covered when we took the policy out, M&S have subsequently changed our insurance providers from Aviva to AXA. He said that we were sent a booklet that illustrated the policy changes between the two companies and one of them was that we were no longer covered in our rented garage. Now, needless to say, we still have these booklets and both reading them back then as well as again now, this policy change is far from clear. Had it have been, we would most certainly have raised this as an issue because the whole point of this policy was to cover our precious bicycles.
I was stunned – I couldn’t believe that they were doing this to us. I think I used some fairly frank language to the man from M&S – I must have done, he threatened to hang up the call on me (In the event it was me who hung up on him). Clearly, for high value claims, their tactic is to refuse payment as soon as possible. Interestingly, although AXA had a good reputation, Aviva had more consumer complaints referred to the financial ombudsman (FOS) than any other insurer in the last six months of last year.
Julian has subsequently explained Lord Denning’s Big Red Hand to me and it would appear that we have a very good chance of overturning this decision at the Ombudsman. But until then folks, check your insurance policies VERY carefully.
And whatever you do, don’t buy an insurance policy from Marks and Spencers or AXA. Especially if you’re relying on it to cover your valuable bicycles
 
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