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Headset bearings - are they all the same size?

Discussion in 'Bicycle Mechanics and Repairs' started by Twenty Inch, 19 Mar 2008.

  1. Twenty Inch

    Twenty Inch New Member

    Location:
    Behind a desk
    Finally took off the Tioga aheadset type headset, and found dry, rusty bearing inside, unsurprisingly.

    Can I buy any generic bearings to refit? And if so, what size are they? I'm going to take away the cages and pack as many bearings in as I can, as this will distribute the load further.

    The races seem ok, but as it's my commuter hack, I'm not terribly bothered about whether steering is super-smooth or not.
     
  2. Zoiders

    Zoiders New Member

    Location:
    Ice Station Zebra
    Standard cage in a bog standard tioga

    You can buy them off the shelf in the lowliest of LBS, even Halfrauds, to be honest you can replace the the cage with loose balls and put a few more balls in, but I would have to say that the mechanical advantage and improvement in load bearing distribution would be so small as to not be worth bothering with, I like a nice easy cage that you can pop out, clean, and then pop back in again with out fooking about with tiny ball bearings.

    Filling headsets with loose balls is touted as some major improvement in some cycle manuals or magazines, to be honest its a pointless excercise for a £15 headset that works just fine as it is if kept clean and greased. Know how page frippery for cycling mags. Nothing more.
     
  3. Twenty Inch

    Twenty Inch New Member

    Location:
    Behind a desk
    Thanks Zoiders, helpful reply.
     
  4. fossyant

    fossyant Ride It Like You Stole It!

    Location:
    South Manchester
    The Tioga, will be either a 1" or 1" 1/8th in size.
     
  5. hubgearfreak

    hubgearfreak Über Member


    thems some big balls^_^
     
  6. Zoiders

    Zoiders New Member

    Location:
    Ice Station Zebra
    Diameter of the ball bearings my dear boy, not the steerer tube:rolleyes:
     
  7. fossyant

    fossyant Ride It Like You Stole It!

    Location:
    South Manchester
    TBH, I'd replace the lot.... cups etc.... or get a cassette bearing type ! The bb's are the same but normally come in 1 or 1 1/8 cages..... stick with cages, easier to handle...
     
  8. Zoiders

    Zoiders New Member

    Location:
    Ice Station Zebra
    There are headsets and headsets

    If the races are OK with no wear then just replace the cage and BBs, if its scored then Fossy is right, a shimano 105 or STX RC is a good threaded headset with cartridge bearings for the money

    The best threaded ones I have encountered are the old Tange and Raleigh ones that were made from chrome steel, they are almost indestructable, not as well sealed as newer headsets but then again they didnt need to be, I stuck an new old stock one in my fixie because it matched the age and look of the bike rather well
     
  9. Twenty Inch

    Twenty Inch New Member

    Location:
    Behind a desk
    Thanks again Zoiders. I'll have a closer look and decide.