Hmm.. No "Black Lives Matter" thread?

Bollo

Failed Tech Bro
Location
Winch
This gate: View: https://twitter.com/DLoesch/status/1277676268260073473/photo/1
did'nt damage itself

It turns out the source of that video(both actually) is a perfect demonstration how blm lies work. the video cuts out at around 38 seconds so you don't see how they get trough a gate. They do the same thing if a black guy is killed by the police but he carriers a weapon the video they spread is then so cut and doctored they make it look like he was unarmed and there not ashamed to claim he was unarmed too even knowing it is an lie. I can't find the original clip as youtube and other sites have been flooded with the misleading one,(and i have a shoot-ton of work to do) but i did found this one

View: https://youtu.be/aVyGQEej0YE
with someone pointing out where private property is entered and so on.
That's better dutch, at least you're providing evidence like I asked. I didn't see the private street sign there when they entered (the sign only appears in the stills) and of course any damage is criminal and the perps should be punished. But hey, I've never found a situation was made worse by inexpertly waving a military-grade weapon about, right?

But then you lose it and start making up stuff about (I think - I really tried to understand) protesters carrying guns? Have I got that right? But you don't have a problem with the two people who are really obviously threatening to kill people with their guns. Why do only white people get to carry guns and it be fine?

I'll answer that one for you with a bit of history. By US standards, California has relatively strict firearms laws due to something called the Mulford Act, which places restrictions on the public carrying of loaded firearms. Surprisingly, this was supported by non-other than then-governor of California, Ronald Reagan. It was also supported by the NRA. WTAF you say!? The conservative's conservative supporting gun control?!

Well it turns out that the timing of the act coincided with the Black Panther's patrols in parts of Oakland carrying legally held firearms. Black people with guns, protecting themselves? Heaven forbid! Law passed.

Now, watching that video I'm thinking that the best thing in the world would be that neither side were armed. Failing that, both sides might as well be armed. I'd be interested to know if Rambo's dad would have been so free waving his M16 around if he knew that anyone in the crowd were equally tooled up, legally of course. Either he's (a) pretty sure no one is armed and (b) is very sure that no matter how irresponsible, dangerous and murderous his intentions, the US judicial system isn't going to hold him to account. And that is the problem.
 

Mugshot

Cracking a solo.
How are they being 'turned into racists' i just don't get that.

What is this quiet contemplation ??

Sitting still, and wishing or praying racism away - but not actually saying or doing anything about racism.

That would be nice if it could happen i sp'ose ..
Dunno, summat to do with toxic liberalism and lefties I expect.
 

MntnMan62

Well-Known Member
Location
Northern NJ
Having white skin and supporting a movement doesn't mean you've hijacked it - it just means you support it.

I've been active in these things before - i'm pretty 'moderate' i still am active in them.

I'm totally against violence - unlike some who seem to glory in guns, and macho swagger - but i will join in a non violent demonstration or whatever, if there is one being set up and i think my presence is useful.

Personally I've noticed a lot more people are waking up to these issues especially if they hadn't really thought about them - or hadn't been affected before - there have been a few lightbulb moments : -

"Oh shoot i hadn't really considered all this before - i need to think about it all a bit more from now on - oops"

I've not heard anyone in real life or online going

"Well - i was a bit disengaged but definitely - anti racist before - but now ?? With all this business going on - i'm feeling a bit alienated so i'm moving myself towards being a bit more racist, and less aware of the issues"

That's just not happening.

Sure some folks are feeling a bit uncomfortable about having to face up to stuff they didn't realise was happening - and that is bringing up uncomfortable feelings - but making society more racist ?? I don't think so.

And no its not a 'hierachy of causes' - you can care about all of it - this is why we have a concept called intersectionality .

But yes, there is definitely a visible resistance from those who currently benefit from inequality as it is - wanting to hold onto those privileges -
thats unedifying maybe - but also understandable at the same time .

Edit..

BTW, Having a particular skin tone has saved many people from bigotry or ill treatment, it's just those people maybe didn't realise that that was the case.
Well said.
 

Inertia

I feel like I could... TAKE ON THE WORLD!!
Having white skin and supporting a movement doesn't mean you've hijacked it - it just means you support it.

I've been active in these things before - i'm pretty 'moderate' i still am active in them.

I'm totally against violence - unlike some who seem to glory in guns, and macho swagger - but i will join in a non violent demonstration or whatever, if there is one being set up and i think my presence is useful.

Personally I've noticed a lot more people are waking up to these issues especially if they hadn't really thought about them - or hadn't been affected before - there have been a few lightbulb moments : -

"Oh shoot i hadn't really considered all this before - i need to think about it all a bit more from now on - oops"

I've not heard anyone in real life or online going

"Well - i was a bit disengaged but definitely - anti racist before - but now ?? With all this business going on - i'm feeling a bit alienated so i'm moving myself towards being a bit more racist, and less aware of the issues"

That's just not happening.

Sure some folks are feeling a bit uncomfortable about having to face up to stuff they didn't realise was happening - and that is bringing up uncomfortable feelings - but making society more racist ?? I don't think so.

And no its not a 'hierachy of causes' - you can care about all of it - this is why we have a concept called intersectionality .

But yes, there is definitely a visible resistance from those who currently benefit from inequality as it is - wanting to hold onto those privileges -
thats unedifying maybe - but also understandable at the same time .

Edit..

BTW, Having a particular skin tone has saved many people from bigotry or ill treatment, it's just those people maybe didn't realise that that was the case.
Indeed, it's just another of the old tactics to try and shut people up by attacking their motives and grouping them into groups you can attribute motives to
 

mudsticks

Obviously an Aubergine
Indeed, it's just another of the old tactics to try and shut people up by attacking their motives and grouping them into groups you can attribute motives to
Altogether now you..

Libtard, soyboy, snoflake,
social justice warriorising, identity politicking, hypocritical hipster, regressive Liberal elitist bandwagon jumpers you.

Have I missed anything??

Oh yeah, champagne socialists.. We see you too.. :becool:
 

tom73

Veteran
Location
Yorkshire
Thought it maybe about time for some Bell Hooks

“Since the notion that we should all forsake attachment to race and/or cultural identity and be “just humans” within the framework of white supremacy has usually meant that subordinate groups must surrender their identities, beliefs, values, and assimilate by adopting the values and beliefs of privileged-class whites, rather than promoting racial harmony this thinking has created a fierce cultural protectionism.”
Bell Hooks, Killing Rage: Ending Racism
 

mudsticks

Obviously an Aubergine
Thought it maybe about time for some Bell Hooks

“Since the notion that we should all forsake attachment to race and/or cultural identity and be “just humans” within the framework of white supremacy has usually meant that subordinate groups must surrender their identities, beliefs, values, and assimilate by adopting the values and beliefs of privileged-class whites, rather than promoting racial harmony this thinking has created a fierce cultural protectionism.”
Bell Hooks, Killing Rage: Ending Racism
And much as us we might have some noble aspirations, and 'cultures' of our own, there is so much wonder, and value abundant in other peoples.

Food, music, art, science, philosophy, spirituality, ways of living, and loving, to name but a few..

Why limit and suppress these things, when there is so much to gain?

So long as no one is being forced or coerced.

The last bit is of course where the 'devil' often lies.

But the dead hand of white supremacy 'culture' is anything, but culture.

If by 'culture' we mean something that enhances our lives.
 

mudsticks

Obviously an Aubergine
I lost it at work today when my manager and colleagues started on about this and white lives matter too, Lee Rigby etc.
Trying to say the usual stuff.
I let into him that they are not the same, and I do have some personal experience (xenophobia, not racism) since coming from Germany and living in a very racist/xenophobic area.
I work with a majority of People that support brexit and every one of them has "views" about foreigners.

I've had enough.
 
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