Duckenfield was prosecuted - twice.Sadly I think the Grenfell enquiry will go the same way.
Unlawful killing but without any prosecutions.
These events are too large and complex to pin all the blame on one individual.
I meant convictions. Not prosecutions.Duckenfield was prosecuted - twice.
As a general point, juries in my experience like their killers to have administered some violence directly.
Duckenfield could have been convicted of gross negligence manslaughter, but it's a leap to convince a jury he killed anyone in the crowd from his position in the match control room.
Any discussion comes down to those who say Liverpool fans were cause and those who say they were not. No amount of evidence of failures by Wednesday's management in planning (inadequate provision of entrance turnstiles and general neglect of facilities) will divert them from referencing Heysel etc and pointing finger at late arriving supporters.There was a long and at times bad tempered thread in the old news forum.
It was certainly locked temporarily, if not permanently.
For the record, the match commander Duckenfield was cleared of manslaughter yesterday after a retrial.
We've already had two sets of inquests, so I think that's the end of official involvement.
Yeah, disgrace aren't they? Ordinary people fighting against insurmountable odds to get the very law governing such things changed. People who wouldn't take no for an answer and stood up to the corporate powers that closed ranks and got what they deserved. How bloody awful.I wish the relatives could find peace and try to move on too.
I think that Duckenfield has 'got off'. That said, I believe that others are more culpable for what occurred.While as a long term observer of the operations of the courts and as somebody with no skin in the game can see how that can happen it must look to families as if process has been manipulated and he has 'got off'.
Well that was rational..Yeah, disgrace aren't they? Ordinary people fighting against insurmountable odds to get the very law governing such things changed. People who wouldn't take no for an answer and stood up to the corporate powers that closed ranks and got what they deserved. How bloody awful.