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Is this suitable for a fixed?

Discussion in 'Fixed Gear and Single Speed' started by Paulus, 15 Apr 2008.

  1. Paulus

    Paulus Getting older by the minute

    Hi there, I have the chance of gettng an old Peugeot Aubisque frame which although twenty years old is in really good nick. Would this be a suitable frame to convert into a fixed. I have toyed with the idea of going this way for a while. Your opinions please.
  2. Smokin Joe

    Smokin Joe Legendary Member

    If you like the frame it is probably ideal as it will should have 120mm dropouts.
  3. Zoiders

    Zoiders New Member

    Ice Station Zebra

    How many times!

    You stick a 120 hub in and scrunch it down tight so the frame cold sets, in fact if the bike is only 20 years old - which places it in 1988 - I would bet its got modern spacing 130mm drop outs
  4. Smokin Joe

    Smokin Joe Legendary Member

    I bow to you on 126mm instead of 120, but I don't think 130mm came out till a bit later than 1988.
  5. hubgearfreak

    hubgearfreak Über Member

    are you suggesting that you assemble it stressed and hope it settles itself down?;)
  6. skwerl

    skwerl New Member

    of course. it's a tried and tested technique. it's only 3mm either side. it'll unlikely ever settle to 120mm so will just need a bit of a squeeze to get the wheel in
  7. hubgearfreak

    hubgearfreak Über Member

    when i asked about doing it this way, bob jackson said DON'T
  8. bobajobrob

    bobajobrob New Member

    It's fine to put a 120mm hub in a 126mm OLN steel frame. I've done it and so have lots of other people. I doubt it will "cold set" (i.e. bend) the frame at all, it will just spring back to 126mm when you remove the wheel.

  9. hubgearfreak

    hubgearfreak Über Member

    that's what i thought, so why would they say it wasn't a good idea?
  10. hubgearfreak

    hubgearfreak Über Member

    i've just read SB http://sheldonbrown.com/frame-spacing.html and he implies that it's best to re-space properly even in a small difference, essential on larger jumps

    so i think i'd be tempted to follow the advice of bob jackson and sheldon brown
  11. hubgearfreak

    hubgearfreak Über Member

    but each bike belongs to its owner, and it's their choice . . . of course:biggrin:
  12. bobajobrob

    bobajobrob New Member

    From Sheldon Brown:
    I think that's about as close to saying it's OK we'll get.
  13. hubgearfreak

    hubgearfreak Über Member

    that's an imcomplete quote, as you know

    i've highlighted the parts that suggest it should be done

    Do You Need To Permanently Spread Your Frame?

    Ideally, the frame spacing should exactly match the hub spacing. This makes for easiest wheel replacement. In practice, however, there's a fair amount of latitude in fit. In fact, when the first 130 mm 8-speed hubs were introduced, they had locknuts with beveled sides, so that you could "spring" apart the rear triangle of a frame made for the then-standard 126 mm spacing.

    In general, you can safely go up one size in spacing this way, just springing the frame apart. I can't give you an absolute guarantee that this won't cause damage, but the odds are very much in your favor.

    If, however, you want to do it right, and your frame is steel, cold setting is the better way to go.

    If you're going more than one size, say from 120 to 130, or from 126 to 135, you should definitely cold set the frame.
  14. hubgearfreak

    hubgearfreak Über Member

    however, on your bike, it's your choice. i know i'd do it properly
  15. OP

    Paulus Getting older by the minute

    Further to my earlier post, what gearing would you suggest. I thought I might try a 44/13 or maybe a 14. Would that be too high a gear?