Joe Biden and his Presidency deserve their own thread....

Optimistic on several fronts, but I guess that's not a bad thing.
You were right earlier when you said it was rhetoric. At least it is positive rhetoric, and that is cause for some hope, but was clearly written as a statement to set them apart from the divisiveness of Trump and his MAGA slogan.

It is still the US, where Starmer would be seen as a Socialist/Comminist, and a venal, self-aggrandising Trump got 70+ million votes, and a statement written with the help of eloquent advisers, but until we see some positive and specific examples, once she has been on her "listening tour", of how she intends to achieve these I will reserve my judgement.
 

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It's a bit more complicated than that...
Optimistic on several fronts, but I guess that's not a bad thing.
Merely drawing the obvious parallel - that the time for big vision is after you're confirmed in office.
 
To take a leaf out of Jonathan Van Tam’s book of tortuous analogies, the driver has got on board, the train has built up its head of steam, the crew knows where to go and tickets have been printed. All it needs now is for passengers to buy those tickets, for those passengers to get on board at the various stations along the way and the train not to go down the sidetracks that will inevitably turn up. :whistle:
 
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To take a leaf out of Jonathan Van Tam’s book of tortuous analogies, the driver has got on board, the train has built up its head of steam, the crew knows where to go and tickets have been printed. All it needs now is for passengers to buy those tickets, for those passengers to get on board at the various stations along the way and the train not to go down the sidetracks that will inevitably turn up. :whistle:
... or staff difficulties, Hampton Wick; signal failure at Vauxhall; staff shortages, Nine Elms; deraillment of container truck, Raynes Park; seasonal manpower shortages, Clapham Junction; defective junction box, New Malden; overheated axle at Berrylands; defective axle at Wandsworth; stolen lines at Surbiton.
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I think the metaphor is capable of accommodating these examples, if suitably adjusted for the US context.

And yet I remain optimistic :smile:
 

Eziemnaik

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This is good, from the new Secretary of the Treasury. I know it's rhetoric, not action, but nothing is going to happen unless there's some vision. Take note, Starmer...
New secretary of tresury is a part of good ol boys network, so I would not be excited
As a trivia she regularly took north of 100k for speaches from banks
Now her job is the regulate these banks
If this is not a conflict of interest I don't know what is
 
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Eziemnaik

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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021...from-enough-nuclear-material-for-bomb-blinken

Sounds dangerously close to "45m away from deploying WMDs"
 
Bernie Saunders is the best President the USA never had... bit like Mo Molam is the best PM we never had [ranked on a par with Angela Merkel].
Mo had as much chance as a slug in a salt mine.
John Smith was the best hope of reeling in the timid and the resolute from either side of the divide and convincing the majority of Britons that the game had always been stacked against them.
 

Archie_tect

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Mo had as much chance as a slug in a salt mine.
John Smith was the best hope of reeling in the timid and the resolute from either side of the divide and convincing the majority of Britons that the game had always been stacked against them.
Ah, John Smith- he'd have been truly brilliant- his untimely death was a tragedy for the Labour Party and for the UK as a country.
 
Foreign minister of Iran did a 10 minute interview on the commie CNN last night, I think he did interviews for the grown ups newspapers too.
Iran reaching out in public to see if a return to talking about uranium enrichment can be kickstarted. Probably more for European consumption than US.
Biden and his staff would have been aware of most if not all of what minister Zarif was going to say prior to the interview.
Tough times ahead because Iran has some gripes about increased arms sales to Saudi Arabia and the thorny issue of US complicity in the siege of Yemen.
Bidens suspension of arms sales will be seen as clearing the table just as soon as the Saudi and UAE cluster bomb stocks run out which will be a real blessing for children in Yemen.
Zarif also took a gentle swipe at the Trump admins "peacemaking" efforts between countries that had either never had conflict between them or not for 4 decades.
Biden has the toughest job on this planet.
 
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Edwardoka

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All this predictably hawkish rhetoric about Iran makes it clear that the liberals have literally no idea how Trumpism happened.
If the U.S. goes to war with Iran on another fabricated pretext, the centre-right within the Democratic Party will find themselves even more reviled by the left than they are by MAGA cultists.
 
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