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More HDTV advice please

Discussion in 'CycleChat Cafe' started by Mister Paul, 28 Jun 2008.

  1. Mister Paul

    Mister Paul Honky

    Location:
    North Somerset
    :tongue:

    So I bought a 32" LG TV, after my 5th trip to Richer Sounds of the week. The 32LC56. It's a nice TV, and the previous model so pretty cheap.

    It's set up to play through a normal aerial lead and a scart. But I'm starting to get annoyed with it. I@ve managed to get the V+ box onto HD (I think) because the V+ box display says HDTV.

    But I can't for the life of me work out whether I need to tell the TV to take the signal through the HDMI lead, or how to do this if I need to. At the moment the HDMI and SCART leads are both plugged in, and the HD channel is a lot better quality that the others, but if I pull out the SCART lead then I lose the signal.

    Any ideas?
     
  2. Lardyboy

    Lardyboy New Member

    You usually have to tell the source, in this case your V+ box, to output through HDMI and your TV should detect it via one of its HDMI inputs. You should be able to watch all your non-HD channels via HDMI now as well. But, I'm not a Virgin expert, if you'll excuse the pun Mr. P. But it should work. HDMI is a two way connection, both units will talk to one another.

    Oh and another tip. Have you got any of the new Star Wars series on DVD? If you have there's an excellent screen set up procedure on them. You'll be surprised how far out all the settings are once you've used it.
     
  3. marinyork

    marinyork Resting in suspended Animation

    Location:
    Logopolis
    Sorry Mister Paul, I'm about 90% sure you haven't got it working in hdmi. HMDI disables scart etc in most circumstances if it is working on the V+. What channel source you got the LG set up on, is it on one of the two HDMI channels? Something like pressing "input" on the lg tv remote (near the top on the left?) and then scroll left and right to various options - labelled AV1,2,3, Composite, HDMI1, HDMI2? You'll need to try selecting HDMI1 or 2. On LGs you can usually rename them so you could call it Virgin or something after you've worked out which. It's an urban myth on virgin that you can't watch BBC HD through scart, you can just not properly.

    The V+ engineer did this when I got it installed, plugged in HDMI and SCART and claimed it was set up for HDMI. I had the tell tale giveaway that he'd left the thing in 4:3 though!!! It's not really embarrassing the V+ guy didn't manage to do it or couldn't be arsed here.

    To sort out the V+ side you have to press the blue "HOME" button then select "8 settings" and then "4 change audio and display settings". Go to the second line "display format" and the third line. There are various options widescreen and 4:3 are through scart and 720p 1080i and their "widescreen" versions are the HDMI hi def settings plus there are some component settings. Select HiDef HDMI and 720To finalise the settings it will ask you to press a button you cannot see if it's not working properly. This is the TEXT button just below the number pad. Note you may need to suddenly change channel on the tv to HDMI and suddenly all will appear.

    You got the volume code for the new tv for the v+ remote?

    HTH or that you've worked this out already.

    P.S. You can select 1080 but it's less clear for menus etc, this is a bug on the V+.

    P.P.S. the HDTV thing on the LCD on the front of the V+ just means that channel or VOD content by source is HD, not that you're necessarily watching in HD.
     
  4. OP
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    Mister Paul

    Mister Paul Honky

    Location:
    North Somerset
    Thanks for that.

    I'd worked out that it wasn't working in HD because a)the picture looks virtually the same on the HD channel and the normal channels and :?: it goes off when I pull out the scart lead.

    Also , when I do the setup fro the V+ box you describe above, it returns to the previous settings after the test and says that I don't have a HD tv attached.

    I'cve tried getting into the LG settings for the tv but, as is common these days, the instruction book is pitiful. I think I've pointed it at the HDMI1 socket, but it's not happening yet.

    So I'm struggling to work out whether it's the TV ,the V+ box or the lead. I suppose I'll have to spend another afternoon on the Virgin helpline to the bloke in India (they cut me off 3 times yesterday and twice said they'd get someone else to call back as they didn't know what I was talking about), and pop back into Richer Sounds tomorrow.
     
  5. marinyork

    marinyork Resting in suspended Animation

    Location:
    Logopolis
    It's both. What happens is when you go through that lot MENU/8/4 HDMI&720 it says if you can see this screen then press TEXT otherwise it times out after about 15 seconds and says scart will do thankyou very much. It says on mine I don't have a HDTV attached, I hastily change input to HDMI through the tv and suddenly the magic screen appears, I press text and it keeps it. If the tv input is on scart you won't see the screen saying you have to press TEXT (next to zero on the keypad on the v+ remote). This catches quite a few people out. My tv is even more mysterious than most, it doesn't even call hdmi hdmi it just calls it input 5!

    I found a manual earlier that claimed to be for your tv. It wasn't very well written but the input button to change input from scart to hdmi (or others) should be the top left most button.

    So you have to have the v+ plugged in through scart to "see what you're doing", switch the settings to HDMI through V+, have the screen go blank, hastily switch input on the tv to hdmi, have a screen appear that says press TEXT, do so and you'll be in HDMI. The problem is working out how to change input on the tv. It should be Input and then press up/down left/right something like that.

    Sorry input button seems to be 3rd one down on the left?
     
  6. marinyork

    marinyork Resting in suspended Animation

    Location:
    Logopolis
    There's a manual way to get it to work that someone on the forums found ages ago. I don't use it as it takes long enough rebooting my v+ box.

    Press reset button.
    Press&hold stop/play on the panel on the box until boot appears in green text (about 5-10 seconds).
    Wait a while till output comes up
    ff through the options to hdrni press ok.
    Wait about a million years for the thing to boot up. You can get composite 4:3 by selecting SD.

    Hmmm might be worth a go actually. Switch your tv onto standby. Plug the hmdi cable from hmdi 1 into the v+ hmdi slot. Do the above, wait a while. Switch your tv on and see if it automatically picks it up. If it doesn't, press input and scroll through to see if you can get it. It might be better that way as you only have the tv side to link up rather than synchronising both sides?
     
  7. OP
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    Mister Paul

    Mister Paul Honky

    Location:
    North Somerset
    I got it to work. The instructions I printed from the Virgin site didn't mention pressing text, and neither did any of the pop-up boxes as I was going through the process.

    And it looked great. Until the box went off. So I reset it and it came back with no picture. So I reset it again and it came back with no picture. Then the picture appeared after 5 minutes, but the menu screens aren't working. I've had it off for half an hour to cool down but it's still not working properly.
     
  8. marinyork

    marinyork Resting in suspended Animation

    Location:
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    :becool::ohmy:! sounds like a possible hdcp problem. You got anything else that uses hdmi like an upscaling dvd player?
     
  9. OP
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    Mister Paul

    Mister Paul Honky

    Location:
    North Somerset
    No, only the TV.

    I've just spoken to Virgin again. It's just an annoying co-incidence. There's a fault in the area. Which sadly happened 5 minutes before the wife came home and I was about to show her the quality of the picture to justify spending £400.
     
  10. marinyork

    marinyork Resting in suspended Animation

    Location:
    Logopolis
    Lol well that's good news I guess. If any of the problems come back there are things to do about it.

    Wombledon on BBCHD solidly Mon, Tues, Weds. The Universe HD on tv choice on demand in the history channel section is quite good but they keep on deleting eps.