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Nationalise Our Railways said Poll

Discussion in 'News and Current Affairs' started by The Jogger, 2 Jan 2018.

  1. Andy in Germany

    Andy in Germany Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Stuttgart, Germany
    I wasn't intending it to be entirely sarcasm, just the bits I marked as such...

    It is interesting to see that the UK is going down this route. When Germany started talking about making Autobahns private, it was the right-of-centre parties and their Mercedes driving supporters that went mad: apparently socialism is fine if it benefits them, but not for other people.

    They tried saying just non-German vehicles but the EU objected. Fair enough from the EU's point of view, but annoying for the Germans.

    The most recent suggestion was that we have tolls for all vehicles but German vehicle owners get a rebate in the form of a cut in vehicle excise duty, but I think it will still be state owned even if that happens...
     
  2. Unkraut

    Unkraut Master of the Inane Comment

    Location:
    Germany
    Hopefully not too irrelevant on a thread about the railways, but I note once again from two trips to the UK over the Christmas period that you can tell a Tory govt is in office by the state of the roads. An utter disgrace. At least railways never have potholes.

    It's worse than Belgium ...
     
  3. Blue Hills

    Blue Hills Guru

    Location:
    London
    No, cos I think you'll find that they use metal track things. I used to travel a lot on business between the midlands and london. Under blair's government. A massive struggle trying to work as the train rocked all over the place, coffee aflying. Complained to the train company who sent me a bla response about maintenance being at the cor3 of their mission. Days later a serious deraillement with deaths and lots of the network went on to emergency wartime rules with severe inter city speed restrictions which made it better to use a long distance bus.
     
  4. TinyMyNewt

    TinyMyNewt An execrable pun

    Location:
    South coast, UK
    I think that, on a scale of irrelevance, that is probably a bit towards the Very Irrelevant end, yes.
     
  5. Rupie

    Rupie Well-Known Member

    The problem with Private V nationalized in the UK normally means the following Privatise to fleece the public for profit, whilst government subsidising and Nationalise throw money at it and use as political pawn and just run badly with no real long term plan. This applies to both Telecom and energy.

    What the British need to learn how to do is run nationalised companies as if they were privatised and the we were the shareholder, therefore profits go to the people (passengers) keeping a balance of fares down and investment up, not filling the pockets of shareholders.

    Someone also mentioned that many of us have pension pots and that our pensions make money out of profits from the railway companies. I find this comment one of the most selfish and self motivated comments I have ever read on here, and shocked by it.
     
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  6. Adrian

    Adrian Heed the elf's wisdom

    It is a measure of quite how interconnected and interdependent we are.
     
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  7. Rupie

    Rupie Well-Known Member

    No a measure of how selfish and callace some people are "lets not worry about the cost and misery to many, including people I know, Lets not worry about tthe fact if it was run properly many would benifit, lets just be thankful that the way money is creamed off by companies helps my pension...
     
  8. Rupie

    Rupie Well-Known Member

    Appauled by this comment.
     
  9. Adrian

    Adrian Heed the elf's wisdom

    I think that I have failed to express myself clearly here. What I meant was that our interdependent economy binds us all, and frequently to things that we would go nowhere near left to individual choice. That aside, If everythingrything were run properly we could all benefit.
     
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  10. MikeG

    MikeG Veteran

    Location:
    Suffolk
    The railway equivalent is worn tracks. I traveled on a train in Mauritania on tracks as thin as a table knife in places. At least with pot holes you have some sort of chance of driving around them..........
     
  11. Adrian

    Adrian Heed the elf's wisdom

    Whilst I would hope that there are no worn tracks, I know exactly where all the rough track is coming up between London and Brighton. If it is not worn, it is presumably not precisely laid.
     
  12. Slick

    Slick Über Member

    I don't know why, it's just a statement of fact. Nobody should be offended by someone earning cash.
     
  13. screenman

    screenman Legendary Member

    Why?
     
  14. Regulator

    Regulator Treachery is noble when aimed at tyranny.

    You are clearly easily appalled. As @Adrian said

     
  15. Unkraut

    Unkraut Master of the Inane Comment

    Location:
    Germany
    Quite. Implied in my dig at the govt about the state of the roads was that if said govt cannot keep the roads in good condition, would it necessarily be able to keep the railways in good condition if they were re-nationalised.

    There may be good arguments for re-nationalising the rail network, but please let's not bring back British Rail and the attitude of its staff in particular.