painting a door frame...

[Maz]

How do I paint a new door frame and make sure that the screws in this picture dont rust? i'm not sure if they are stainless or not. Do i need to treat the heads before applying primer and then gloss coats? The knots have already been treated with a special liquid. thanks

 

[dandare]

Remove the hinges before painting (always).If not sure then replace screws with rustless ones. Galvanised or zinc coated

 

[Mark Grant]

It wont hurt to put a dab of knotting on the screws too, especially if you are using a water based primer.
The problem with removing the hinges is that you have to have somewhere for the door to lean against while it dries and there will be the temptation to re-hang it before the paint is dry thereby mucking up the paint job.
you can always mask the hinges if they are to remain unpainted.

 

[BigonaBianchi]

Yep..take orf the hinges....sand, prime, undercoat, rub down, top coat...replace door and hinges.

 

[Maz]

Why remove the hinges? The picture doesnt show it, but there is a door hanging from the hinges.

 

[BigonaBianchi]

Are you going to paint over the hinges??...if so then ok..but imho you will get a better job done if you remove them, clean them up, paint the door, re fit the hinges and re hang the door.

 

[Mark Grant]

It is far easier to paint a door whilst it is hanging, you can do both sides and the frame without having to handle the door.

 

[Moodyman]

It is far easier to paint a door whilst it is hanging, you can do both sides and the frame without having to handle the door.

As some one who painted 11 new doors last year, I concur. You just need a steady hand around the hinges.

 

[screenman]

The screws you asked about in your OP need sinking back a bit, filling over and sanding flat, you can remove the door and hinges if you are painting the door as well, failing that you can use masking tape on the hinges. Doors are always easily painted whilst mounted on trestles, I prefer the use of a 4 or 6 inch gloss roller and the brush just for the bits the roller cannot reach. I always do two coats of quick drying primer/undercoat and two coats of gloss, but I do like a nice flowed out finish with very few brush marks showing.

 

[Spinney]

Do gloss rollers really work then? I tried one a while ago, and reverted to a brush very quickly!

Any tips or tricks?

 

[screenman]

Brush rollers work well for me and the decorators that do work for me, having said that like all things they need practise.

Maybe quicker to paint a door whilst it is hanging but for a nice wet flowed out finish I prefer to take it off, time is not important when I want a nice quality finish.

I also sand the walls before my topcoat of emulsion goes on, I suppose it is all the time I spent painting cars and teaching that subject that I try and get the same finish on my houses.

 

[Fab Foodie]

Do gloss rollers really work then? I tried one a while ago, and reverted to a brush very quickly!

Any tips or tricks?

I've used them and my Dad (a lifelong P&D) also used them sometimes. They're great for getting the stuff quickly and evenly over a large surface, however on things like doors we tended to 'pull-out' the paint afterwards with a good brush following grains etc.
Flat panel doors, rollers are brill, but panelled doors a good brush technique is pretty quick too.
As an aside having been brought-up on old-fashioned 'crab-fat' I find modern gloss is horrible stuff to use....

Screws to be painted over - sink 'em in a bit then either filller or putty. Filler prime with a dab of diluted emulsion as a primer (diluted emulsion is perfect primer for bare wood, saves buying anything special or more expensive) or use real primer and carry-on. Putty, whack-on the undercoat when firm!

 

[screenman]

I must also when talking about taking the doors off for a better job that the OP seems maybe a little less experienced in decorating than some who have replied, have the door laid flat will help prevent some of the runs a new person to glossing may get.

 

[Globalti]

You haven't out enough shellac on those knots, they WILL come through the paint. They need a good thick barrier layer, not just a smear.

Drive screws in further and fill with Polyfilla then sand. Remove door and hinges and latch plate.

Prime the wood with wood primer. Rub down v gently. Undercoat, rub down, damp cloth to remove dust, top coat with a brush not a roller, FFS, it will leave buts of fluff or bobbly paint.

 

[PaulB]

Are you sure that's a door? It looks like the lid of a coffin. Watch it doesn't creak open to reveal a decaying arm beckoning you inside....