@Pale Rider have you read the court's reasons which I linked to above?Anything goes might be a bit much.
My grasp of the American system is a lot less than firm, but I get the impression they don't worry about publicity in the way we do.
Nothing to suggest American jury trials are any less - or more - fair than ours.
The High Court judge's comments about Robinson encouraging vigilante action are also worrying.
He was before for her contempt, her knowledge of the Contempt of Court Act will be greater than mine, but I don't think it covers vigilantism.
That may be covered by some incitement offence, but to lock someone up for that the judge needs a police investigation, witnesses, and a jury with the option of finding guilt (or innocence).
What is not needed is the opinion of a circuit judge in Leeds backed up by his judgly mates in London.
Does anyone suggest we deal with the child rapist defendants in the same way?
Never mind a jury trial costing millions, just chuck 'em before a judge and give them plenty of porridge.
Clue:Answers on a postcard?
What Robinson did caused no prejudice to any defendant.As it happened neither trial judge nor Court of Criminal Appeal allowed this. It could though easily have resulted in case being discharged and a re-trial at vast expense or defendant walking.
We have plenty of statutory offences to deal with stuff that could or might happen - careless/dangerous driving for example.What Robinson did caused no prejudice to any defendant.
We do not sentence in this country on what could or might have happened.
Whatever that High Court judge says, Robinson was jailed for contempt of court, not incitement.
Outside the Peoples' Vote rally in Leeds two or three weeks ago, there was quite a queue to get in.I'm curious about SYL's claim the being 'convicted of journalism': does he have the support of his union, the NUJ?
If there's really a case here of a journalist being wrongly convicted and oppressed for doing his job, they'll be making a huge fuss over the threat to freedom of the press, right? Where is it then?
Probably coppers.Outside the Peoples' Vote rally in Leeds two or three weeks ago, there was quite a queue to get in.
Whilst we were queueing, there were two people who constantly filmed us in the queue, using mobiles.
Anyroad, one of them wore a body camera over a high viz which proclaimed him to be a 'Press Photographer', and his chum wore a face covering ski mask, covering his face from the eyes down. As you do when it's over 20 degrees , bright and sunny... There wasn't a 'proper' camera in sight - just the body cam and mobiles. I know I'm a suspicious old fool, but I had my doubts over their motivations...
The offence of dangerous driving exists to deter people from driving dangerously in a way which might cause 'accidents'. The offence of contempt exists to deter people from acting in ways which might cause prejudice to ongoing proceedings. In either case the gravity of the offending will be a factor in sentencing. In either case gravity of offending will increase and further offences may be charged if which 'might cause' becomes 'caused'.If you drive dangerously, you are sentenced for driving dangerously, not on the basis you could have killed another road user
I'm actually glad that SYL goes by the name Tommy Robinson... because every time anyone asks me what I think of Tommy Robinson, my stock reply is "I prefer Tom Robinson"As an aside, I wonder why he picked that name? Given his attitude to LGBT and his racism.
The two men who come to mind when I first heard of Tommy Robinson were the unjustly executed negro* in To Kill a Mockingbird and Tom Robinson the gay singer/songwriter.
*using the term in the novel, it seems very odd to refer to a 'person of colour' in that context
I'm guessing he's never heard of them. I do hope someone, sometime, congratulates him for choosing such an inclusive alternative name.
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