***think I'd better clarify - something's happening with the clock on this website, so you should start with buggi's post dated 18:16 below and this one slots in below Maz's at 18:36 *** <later edit> yep this thread is a bit screwed-up by the website server time-change : please start with buggi's post 3 down from this. The thread is buggi's, about her accident, my whinge was just, well my whinge. Sorry for me (and the server !) messing it up buggi - hope the aches and pains sort out soonest, perhaps get a physio referral or whatever else the hospital/your GP recommend ? If the NHS physio is a long wait, go private and claim it against this dopey driver's insurance (does your car insurance include a 3rd-party costs-recovery ? If so, contact them and see about how you can do this) Maz, excellent on you for being a witness. In fact excellent on anyone for being a witness. Years ago someone ran into me then drove away through a red light without stopping, although I got his number. I also got the details of a witness - the bloke eally didn't want to give them to me, but eventually I got his name, phone number to ring later for address etc, plus his reg no. When I rang the number, the people who answered didn't know anything about it : it wasn't him. I'd reported the incident to the police, the guy who'd hit me denied it all and said the damage to his car was a parking scrape. They checked the witness's reg number and found it did belong to the sort of car that I said it did, but the bloke's name was different and he said he didn't know anything about the incident. So the police wouldn't do anything, I had to claim on my own insurance, lost my no-claims B*st*rds - both the other driver and the witness. Since then I've happily been a witness of two collisions - I know what it's like to be the innocent victim but not able to prove anything.