The deal thread

C R

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I might be jumping the gun here...

Exactly how good or bad is the deal?
Our Nigel is apparently unhappy with it, so it may not be a complete and total clusterfark.
 

stowie

Legendary Member
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Well, the Daily Mail are declaring a Boris Brexit Victory.

Happy Brexmas!

Either the Daily Mail have got an advance copy of the agreement and are speed-reading gurus or they are making some assumptions that they will be happy with it. The text could say anything. Macron could have slipped in a clause which mandates all UK citizens celebrate Bastille Day by singing the La Marseillaise whilst wearing underpants made of Brie.
 
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newfhouse

newfhouse

Regressive elitist lefty
they are making some assumptions that they will be happy with it.
They have no choice, so will support now and complain later. Whatever is in the small print - and arguing about that will keep us amused here and pay an awful lot of lawyers children‘s school fees for years to come - it really is the only option available now.

I have no doubt that the likes of Francois (nice to see him out of quarantine) will complain that he wants more friction, but who cares?

It will be interesting to see if there’s anything worthwhile about security and policing, financial and other services, standards and qualifications recognition, and of course the Irish border.
 

dutchguylivingintheuk

Senior Member
Well, the Daily Mail are declaring a Boris Brexit Victory.

Happy Brexmas!

Either the Daily Mail have got an advance copy of the agreement and are speed-reading gurus or they are making some assumptions that they will be happy with it. The text could say anything. Macron could have slipped in a clause which mandates all UK citizens celebrate Bastille Day by singing the La Marseillaise whilst wearing underpants made of Brie.
Yeah but what they write does'nt really matter, as long as some randoms house value is mentioned that got they article covered!
 

Fab Foodie

hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
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Well, the Daily Mail are declaring a Boris Brexit Victory.

Happy Brexmas!

Either the Daily Mail have got an advance copy of the agreement and are speed-reading gurus or they are making some assumptions that they will be happy with it. The text could say anything. Macron could have slipped in a clause which mandates all UK citizens celebrate Bastille Day by singing the La Marseillaise whilst wearing underpants made of Brie.
The Wail doesn’t operate with truth as a prerequisite for a headline...though sometimes they guess right....
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
It's a terrible deal, and considerably worse than we had as a member of the EU, but rather better than not having a deal. It only covers goods, so the services industries that are our main strength as an economy have been left high and dry. It commits us to maintaining EU standards in all sorts of areas without giving us a say over those standards, which means that it's going to much more difficult to reach a deal with the US. Buried within the small print are several bombshells which nobody in the UK government has spotted but which the EU side are well aware of and which will give Johnson a heart attack when they come out. There are also dozens of things that aren't in the deal but which will turn out to be extremely important over the next few years.

The ERG and Farage won't like it. Johnson's successor (he's going to stand down now) will defend it to the hilt, but Starmer and Sturgeon will spend the next few years pulling it apart.

The ongoing relationship between the EU and the UK will continue to be negotiated until we rejoin the customs union, then the single market, then the EU.
 
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