The Post-Brexit Thread

[ClichéGuevara]

Many people with families in commonwealth countries voted to leave the EU, as they found it limited the chances of their families joining them, in favour of predominantly white migrants from the EU. They felt penalised on racial grounds while we were members, and are happier now.

 

[mjr]

Many people with families in commonwealth countries voted to leave the EU, as they found it limited the chances of their families joining them, in favour of predominantly white migrants from the EU. They felt penalised on racial grounds while we were members, and are happier now.

Has it been made any easier for most Commonwealth citizens to migrate here, or are they happy simply that EU citizens will now suffer the same?

 

[Adam4868]

Shock horror...Johnson,Farage lied.I feel for the ones decieved about Brexit but voting Tory...Nah,suck it up.

 

[ClichéGuevara]

Has it been made any easier for most Commonwealth citizens to migrate here, or are they happy simply that EU citizens will now suffer the same?

It's only been a month or so for the system to be able to change, so it's early days yet, but it does seem to be heading in a direction they're happier with.

It was always likely to be the outcome, and as most I knew fully understood, it would be quite liable to generate an increase in the number of visibly distinct ethnic minorities, it calls a lie to the many claims that leave voters were racist. Anyone advocating a reduction of visibly ethnic people, would have favoured remain, were it not for the EU migrant policy.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Shock horror...Johnson,Farage lied.I feel for the ones decieved about Brexit but voting Tory...Nah,suck it up.

Right... when people are deceived for one cause by Johnson, they deserve sympathy.

For another, they deserve contempt.

I'm sure there's some logic in there somewhere, but I'm darned if I can see it.

 

[Adam4868]

Right... when people are deceived for one cause by Johnson, they deserve sympathy.

For another, they deserve contempt.

I'm sure there's some logic in there somewhere, but I'm darned if I can see it.

Might be difficult for you but how long have the Tories been in power ? It's not like you didn't know what you were getting

 

[ClichéGuevara]

Might be difficult for you but how long have the Tories been in power ? It's not like you didn't know what you were getting

Given the standard the views of some people of the current government, it doesn't bode well that Labour still look nowhere near able to form a viable opposition.

That's not healthy for the Country, and Labour really need to do something drastic to get their act together. There doesn't look to be the start of a decent front bench among them.

 

[Adam4868]

Given the standard the views of some people of the current government, it doesn't bode well that Labour still look nowhere near able to form a viable opposition.

That's not healthy for the Country, and Labour really need to do something drastic to get their act together. There doesn't look to be the start of a decent front bench among them.

Haven't you heard of Starmer...he's the real deal so I'm told

 

[Andy in Germany]

Whilst it's easy to laugh, these people were deliberately deceived as to what the consequences of voting leave would be.

Possibly, but the day after the vote I was already starting my application for citizenship. It didn't take a genius to realise this may be an issue.

 

[Andy in Germany]

Many people with families in commonwealth countries voted to leave the EU, as they found it limited the chances of their families joining them, in favour of predominantly white migrants from the EU. They felt penalised on racial grounds while we were members, and are happier now.

You've said this before, but the EU is a grouping of countries, not a racially defined organisation. Any European citizen can live in any EU country regardless of racial group so I'm not sure how this can be defined as "racist". It is technically possible for a non-European country to join the EU a long as they comply with the criteria, and nowhere in the criteria does it say people need to be of a certain racial group.

 

[ClichéGuevara]

You've said this before, but the EU is a grouping of countries, not a racially defined organisation. Any European citizen can live in any EU country regardless of racial group so I'm not sure how this can be defined as "racist". It is technically possible for a non-European country to join the EU a long as they comply with the criteria, and nowhere in the criteria does it say people need to be of a certain racial group.

As it stands, the general demographic of EU countries is predominantly visibly different to the African and 'Asian' commonwealth countries.

 

[newfhouse]

the many claims that leave voters were racist.

The claim is that many leave voters were racist. Word order matters.

 

[Andy in Germany]

As it stands, the general demographic of EU countries is predominantly visibly different to the African and 'Asian' commonwealth countries.

Um... yes.

We certainly have more pigmentally challenged people in Europe than some other parts of the world.

Although I would add that I've personally helped redress that balance.

 

[ClichéGuevara]

The claim is that many leave voters were racist. Word order matters.

And that is used to imply that therefore leave voters are racist, and tries to be derogatory and label them as such. It ignores the fact that a racist person would benefit less from a move towards migration from outside the EU. It's a desperate red herring in any event.

 

[ClichéGuevara]

Um... yes. We certainly have more pigmentally challenged people than those parts of the world.

Although I would add that I've personally helped redress that balance.

But unless you've reprodused millions, you're a long way off, especially if they're oriental Asians, who for some reason are generally not being included in conversations regarding racism.