Another person who's not across what actually happened, I see.Interesting that the ones doing the Calimero impersonation are the ones who couldn't deal with the problem effectively when in power
Starmer deals with it and they all burst into tears.
What would be the point of voting for a Labour party too intimidated to pursue policy other than would meet with the approval of the Telegraph?Making Labour a realistic electable opposition is what Starmer needs to do, getting rid of Long-Bailey and anybody else tainted by the project Corbyn will be part of that plan, forget the reasons, but yesterday the chances of me voting Labour again seriously increased, I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Unity is a pipe dream in the Labour Party.There is a constant battle, made worse in recent years by the opportunist entry into the CLPs of many new members who saw piggy-backing on the votes of an already popular party as giving them access to power and the sort of influence they would never have got with their own political agendas.I barely have the energy to reply to a take this weak. It's quite extraordinary that people who apparently see themselves as moderates think it's OK to exercise arbitrary factional discipline on this scale, and haven't even begun to face their own hypocrisy after spending the last five years losing the plot if CLP members even dared to suggest they might consider instituting a completely democratic process because they were unhappy with the conduct of their MP. Number of right-wing MPs removed by Corbyn or Corbynistas: 0. Number of left-wing MPs purged of office by Starmer: all of them, now including the main architect of arguably their most important policy. At least have the guts to argue for this kind of nakedly factional authoritarianism if it's what you believe in. Just stop all pretense that it's about 'unity' or 'judgement'.
Is it one of those irregular verbs?Unity is a pipe dream in the Labour Party.There is a constant battle, made worse in recent years by the opportunist entry into the CLPs of many new members who saw piggy-backing on the votes of an already popular party as giving them access to power and the sort of influence they would never have got with their own political agendas.
I am more concerned about the electoral success of a left of centre alternative to the Tory party, which was vanishingly unlikely under the last leader. I would disagree with your terms of "nakedly factional authoritarianism" or "factional discipline" because I am not convinced that RLB was sacked because of her left of centre views, which were known when she was appointed, as much as her lack of judgement over the potential ramifications over the tweet in question, and I think you are wilfully conflating authoritarianism with acting with the authority of a democratically elected leader in the interests of the party. The Labour Party needs to be seen as a party of grown-ups not a party of clichéd factional protestors if they are to win power. She of course has freedom to say whatever she wants, but not as a Shadow Minister.
They need to wise up, the games over for them, Starmer will take the party right to make them .............electable. I disagree with the sacking of Long-Bailey, on highly spurious grounds, but it is a bleedin ruthless decison and sends out a very clear message. It's amazing how many on here revel and accept the likes & agrees (because they can) when expressing a visceral loathing of the Tories, when apparently never considering this is total turn off for most non-political folk, so when Miriam Morgoyles spouts up and says she wished Boris had died or when Laura Pidcock says she could never be friends with a Tory, it guarantees less votes for Labour & probably more for the Tories.These nasty right wing Labour types doing down the 'pure of heart' left..................
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