Trial of *that* Met cop starts today

glasgowcyclist

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The cop who smashed the windscreen of a car then attempted to saw through it with a knife has gone on trial at Southwark Crown Court today. PC Savage (yes, really) is charged with common assault, possession of a bladed article, criminal damage and threatening behaviour. He mistakenly identified the victim as a disqualified driver who was known to police as violent.
http://www.ilfordrecorder.co.uk/news/crime-court/wanstead-police-officer-bully-in-uniform-1-5619566

There was a thread on here from the time it happened but that is now locked. Here's a link to the original thread so you don't rehash old arguments https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/calling-drago-et-al-is-it-normal-uk-police-proceedure-to-vandalise-folks-cars.207349/
 

Cycleops

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I'm sure @Drago will give us a fair assessment of this Robocop's chances.
 

steveindenmark

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I am an ex police officer and have just watched the clip. FFS. 👀

The public cannot have confidence in the police when officers like this get aquitted. It is wrong on so many levels. The only person in control was the driver of the car. What was all the rush and panic about? Nobody was in danger, the driver was calm, the keys were on the dashboard. They didnt even identify the driver. They had the wrong man. What was the police officer doing with a blade? That is a sacking offence by itself.

Some police officers have lost the ability to use the number 1 tool in the box, the power of speech. Being able to talk to people is more powerful than a taser or pepper spray. God help us if they give them all guns.

It is always the 1% that tars the police with the same brush. They do work hard to get rid of them and this officer could still be dismissed over the knife. Lets hope.
 
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glasgowcyclist

glasgowcyclist

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I am an ex police officer and have just watched the clip. FFS. 👀

The public cannot have confidence in the police when officers like this get aquitted. It is wrong on so many levels. The only person in control was the driver of the car. What was all the rush and panic about? Nobody was in danger, the driver was calm, the keys were on the dashboard. They didnt even identify the driver. They had the wrong man. What was the police officer doing with a blade? That is a sacking offence by itself.

Some police officers have lost the ability to use the number 1 tool in the box, the power of speech. Being able to talk to people is more powerful than a taser or pepper spray. God help us if they give them all guns.

It is always the 1% that tars the police with the same brush. They do work hard to get rid of them and this officer could still be dismissed over the knife. Lets hope.

At least he was found guilty of misconduct and is out of the job. >>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-48644358
Like you, I can't believe his over-reaction to the original situation.
 

steveindenmark

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At least he was found guilty of misconduct and is out of the job. >>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-48644358
Like you, I can't believe his over-reaction to the original situation.
The initial thoughts the public can have is that the police are all sticking together. But in reality the police have no qualms in prosecuting other police officer. They do it with vigour and rightly so.

Good to see this officer has been dismissed.... what a plank.
 

Pale Rider

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He was cleared by a jury, so the public can hardly think there was any sticking together or covering up.

Juries sometimes give what appear to onlookers to be perverse verdicts.

It's only fair that all defendants should have the opportunity to benefit from one of those verdicts, whatever job they do.

This case is also one in the eye for all the coppers who moan they get a bad trot in court.
 

theclaud

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The initial thoughts the public can have is that the police are all sticking together. But in reality the police have no qualms in prosecuting other police officer. They do it with vigour and rightly so.
Depends, surely, on the extent to which they do or don't sympathise and identify with what an officer has done?
 
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glasgowcyclist

glasgowcyclist

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Depends, surely, on the extent to which they do or don't sympathise and identify with what an officer has done?
True.

I also note from the BBC article that:
Sal Naseem, the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) director for London, said it was "disappointing that we had to use our powers to direct the Metropolitan Police to hold this [disciplinary] hearing".
 
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