Trice front tyres?

Discussion in 'Recumbents, Trikes and HPVs' started by Seamus, 15 Apr 2010.

  1. Seamus

    Seamus New Member

    Location:
    Rotheram
    Trice front tyres.
    Which one should have?

    Front either,

    Schwalbe Big Apple with Slime inner tubes,

    Schwalbe Marathon Plus.

    or Schwalbe Marathon Plus with Slime inner tubes.


    Rear tyre is a Schwalbe Marathon Plus 47-406
     
  2. marc-triker

    marc-triker New Member

    Location:
    South Derbyshire
    I run Schwalbe Marathon Plus on the front wheels and Schwalbe Big Apple 26" on the rear all with Slime inner tubes and have never nad any problems with that set up m8.
     
  3. ufkacbln

    ufkacbln Guest

    The Marathon Plus are fine, however I am running Marathon Supremes on the Catrike all round - as p*nct*re proof as the plusses, but quicker
     
  4. Dene

    Dene New Member

    My commute involves a very poor cycle path, changing from big apple to marathon plus tyres have greatly reduced the number of punctures but have not stopped them.

    The Marathon + tyres are heavy but for me they are worth it.
     
  5. Auntie Helen

    Auntie Helen Ich bin Powerfrau!

    When I had Big Apples on the front they tended the foul the mudguards so I gave up. I recently bought the Quick-Release rear mudguard which is brill but also too small for Big Apples.

    I now have regular Marathons all round and am very happy with them. The rolling resistance of Marathon Pluses was too much for me. I've had a few punctures but nothing significant and they're so quick to sort out on the front wheels anyway. I've only ever had two punctures in the rear wheel in 16,500 miles.
     
  6. 3tyretrackterry

    3tyretrackterry Active Member

    Location:
    East Midlands UK
    I've only ever had two punctures in the rear wheel in 16,500 miles.Oh dear AH that statement surely means your puncture count will go up probably over the next 16.5 miles let alone 16,500 miles:smile:
     
  7. CopperBrompton

    CopperBrompton Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops

    Location:
    London
    According to Schwalbe, the rolling resistance of the Marathon and Marathon Plus tyres is identical, the only difference that would affect speed is the weight, and that will mostly affect acceleration rather than cruising speed.

    I hate p*nct*r*s so I have Marathon Plus all-round.
     
  8. Auntie Helen

    Auntie Helen Ich bin Powerfrau!

    Well I don't agree with them, having had Marathons on the front, then M+, then back to Marathons. There is a significant difference in rolling resistance and I am unlikely to go back to M+ on the front although it's still a consideration on the rear.
     
  9. byegad

    byegad Legendary Member

    Location:
    NE England
    Trouble fitting BAs to the front of a Trice?

    Replace the spacers supplied by ICE with an off cut from some old straight handle bars. You can make them as long as you like to get clearance.
     
  10. arallsopp

    arallsopp Post of The Year 2009 winner

    Location:
    Bromley, Kent
    I think the +s are more sensitive to running 'under pressure' than the normal marathons. The original front wheel for my SMGTe has a Marathon racer, whilst the replacement (SON hubbed) now has a Marathon+. Before the SON'd racer gave up, I couldn't really detect any difference in the speed (and believe me, I was looking). With the plus, its like riding through sludge at times.

    I don't mind, though. It adds a few calories and maybe 3 minutes to the commute, and its worth it for puncture proofing. If this was my only bent, I'd put racers back on though. :biggrin:
     
  11. CopperBrompton

    CopperBrompton Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops

    Location:
    London
    According to Schwalbe, the rolling resistance is exactly the same but the extra unsprung weight will of course make them slower to accelerate. I do agree, though, that the M+ are very sensitive to pressure.

    Helen, next time we're on a ride, let's do a roll-down test on a quiet hill. Won't be exactly scientific, but should give us a rough idea.
     
  12. Auntie Helen

    Auntie Helen Ich bin Powerfrau!

    It won't work as a test at all as your bike is heavier than mine (disc brake, etc), you have a fairing and presumably our relative bodyweights aren't identical either.

    All I can offer as evidence is that I have been through five sets of standard Marathon tyres and one set of Marathon Plus on the front and the difference was decidedly noticeable. I keep the tyres pumped up close to their suggested maximum and all else was pretty much the same.
     
  13. CopperBrompton

    CopperBrompton Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops

    Location:
    London
    That's a very diplomatic way of putting it. :biggrin:
     
  14. CopperBrompton

    CopperBrompton Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops

    Location:
    London
    The fairing, incidentally, makes naff-all difference to streamlining until you get to pretty high downhill speeds - I did a roll-down test with & without it on a hill where I reach just over 20mph from a standing start, and the difference was from memory about 0.1mph.
     
  15. byegad

    byegad Legendary Member

    Location:
    NE England
    I'd agree with that, plus you are lugging an extra couple of kilograms around, which shows up hill. I find I'm faster into the wind with the Streamer, in fact the speed loss into even a full gale is pretty small compared to riding without the fairing. Down some of out local hills the faster I am without the fairing the greater the gain with it. So a hill I descend at 40-42 mph unfaired sees 44-48 mph faired. While another that sees me consistently hit 32mph unfaired gets 34-35 mph faired.
     
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