TV licence

Joey Shabadoo

My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
Almost a third of women's criminal convictions are for failing to have a TV licence. They are more likely to be home, to open the door to investigators, and probably more likely to be honest about not having one.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tv-licence-fee-women-convictions-b1763192.html?amp
The real outrage is crimes are defined by society, our society is a patriarchy, therefore only men can be criminals so why are these innocent women in prison in the first place?


I'm only joking.

I think.
 

Ian H

I am an ancient randonneur, & I stop often for tea
Location
East Devon
My only experience of the bod actually knocking at the door was that he was very helpful, almost apologetic.
 

figbat

Slippery scientist
TV licencing actually used a name?

I'm always 'the occupier' and according to their letters, they've opened up about 6 special investigations on my property in the last ten years or so. I wish someone would actually knock on my door, then i could ask how their investigation is going. Not well I presume, since they don't seem to have worked out the name of the person who lives at this address. 🕵️‍♂️
Yep - name on the front. I assume it was TV licensing as there were all sorts of public information messages on the envelope about how easy it is to get a licence online. I never opened it so don't know what they wanted. When we first moved here and picked up the mountain of mail that had accumulated in the 2 years of the house being unoccupied we did open some and there were loads of increasingly threatening letters and demands from TV licencing, but they seemed to stop when we applied for a licence.
 

Milkfloat

An Peanut
Location
Midlands
As a student I once opened the front door of the house holding the remote control to the TV. I Unfortunately I was unable to let the nice licensing man into the house as I claimed I was only visiting :whistle:. We unplugged the TV after that and did not use it again. The term after we got broken into and it was stolen.
 

captain nemo1701

Space cadet. Deck 42 Main Engineering.
Location
Bristol
I think that its important to the UK that we have a national broadcaster. To hell with Murdoch and his commercial whining. The BBC often unites us, gives us a vast portfolio of diverse programming which SKY etc dont. They are commercially run & stick to the ideas that formulaic TV works. So if one show is successful, just keep pushing out variations on the formula for commercial success. The BBC can take more risks. The Beeb also do extremely good documentaries and also 'theme nights'. I miss Stargazing Live - why the heck has that stopped?. You aren't ever going to see SKY or Netflix do things like that.

So since this nationalist govt wasted billions on a rubbish track & trace system, which can't even trace the outline of my foot, I'd rather the £4 billion quid or so it costs to run the BBC, handed straight over from the govt. Its a good investment in a brand admired the world over and often sets the bar for standards. The list of BBC successful shows is almost endless. Dr Who, for example, has gone form a cheap 30 minute Saturday night serial to a global brand with an estimated audience of over 70 million worldwide. Unfortunately, rabid right wing loonies want to get rid of it, mainly since it wasn't 'patriotic' enough over Brexit.
 

Genau

Senior Member
Location
London
I think that its important to the UK that we have a national broadcaster. To hell with Murdoch and his commercial whining. The BBC often unites us, gives us a vast portfolio of diverse programming which SKY etc dont. They are commercially run & stick to the ideas that formulaic TV works. So if one show is successful, just keep pushing out variations on the formula for commercial success. The BBC can take more risks. The Beeb also do extremely good documentaries and also 'theme nights'. I miss Stargazing Live - why the heck has that stopped?. You aren't ever going to see SKY or Netflix do things like that.

So since this nationalist govt wasted billions on a rubbish track & trace system, which can't even trace the outline of my foot, I'd rather the £4 billion quid or so it costs to run the BBC, handed straight over from the govt. Its a good investment in a brand admired the world over and often sets the bar for standards. The list of BBC successful shows is almost endless. Dr Who, for example, has gone form a cheap 30 minute Saturday night serial to a global brand with an estimated audience of over 70 million worldwide. Unfortunately, rabid right wing loonies want to get rid of it, mainly since it wasn't 'patriotic' enough over Brexit.
Rupert Murdoch does not own Sky television so I am not sure what relevance he has to this discussion.

Great, you like the BBC so you pay for it then. It's not the 1930s anymore - I don't need a state broadcaster to tell me how to be "united" with, well, with whom exactly?
 

captain nemo1701

Space cadet. Deck 42 Main Engineering.
Location
Bristol
Rupert Murdoch does not own Sky television so I am not sure what relevance he has to this discussion.

Great, you like the BBC so you pay for it then. It's not the 1930s anymore - I don't need a state broadcaster to tell me how to be "united" with, well, with whom exactly?
He once owned SKY but sold his stake in it. Murdoch in the past has moaned the BBC are unfair competition. His toilet paper rag The Sun, has carried 'Scrap the telly tax' articles. By united, I mean we can all come together (well, most of us anyway) for events like Children in Need etc. And those 'theme nights' they do together with shows like Stargazing Live, Springwatch etc, all serve to unite the audience across the country, inviting participation in the 'event'. A state broadcaster like the BBC can experiment & bring us new ideas, new experiences which is often hard for commercial TV to do because ultimately, they're making money, chasing ratings and need advertising. Their business model makes it difficult for them to do things like that. If we lose the BBC, TV will become a desert, populated by formula TV shows all pretty much the same, chasing the same audiences with shows that are 'safe ratings winners'.
 
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Genau

Senior Member
Location
London
Murdoch in the past has moaned the BBC are unfair competition. His toilet paper rag The Sun, has carried 'Scrap the telly tax' articles. By united, I mean we all come together (well, most of us anyway) for events like Children in need etc.
We have established that he does not own a TV station in the UK.

The Sun as part of a free press is entitled to run whatever opinion pieces it likes. If you don't like it, don't buy it. I don't agree with the Guardian's editorial stance but other people are free to buy it. My liberal attitude seems to be deeply unfashionable these days though.

Given those facts, there is not much left to your posts other than some sixth form socialist slogans about a "toilet paper rag" and a "nationalist government."

I am afraid your image of massed ranks of assembled citizens gathered round the Volksempfänger to listen to this year's Winter Hilfe campaign is pure nostalgia.
 

captain nemo1701

Space cadet. Deck 42 Main Engineering.
Location
Bristol
We have established that he does not own a TV station in the UK.

The Sun as part of a free press is entitled to run whatever opinion pieces it likes. If you don't like it, don't buy it. I don't agree with the Guardian's editorial stance but other people are free to buy it. My liberal attitude seems to be deeply unfashionable these days though.

Given those facts, there is not much left to your posts other than some sixth form socialist slogans about a "toilet paper rag" and a "nationalist government."

I am afraid your image of massed ranks of assembled citizens gathered round the Volksempfänger to listen to this year's Winter Hilfe campaign is pure nostalgia.
Google: Godwins Law. Always one who mentions it........

BTW...I am no sixth form student, 57 year old graduate & member of Royal Scientific Society. And I have never ever bought The Sun although if it did have a picture of Murdoch on it, I'd enjoy wiping my rear with his face:okay:. No doubt they can run pieces they like, all newspapers do, but you missed the point about attacking the BBC.
 

MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
We have established that he does not own a TV station in the UK.

The Sun as part of a free press is entitled to run whatever opinion pieces it likes. If you don't like it, don't buy it. I don't agree with the Guardian's editorial stance but other people are free to buy it. My liberal attitude seems to be deeply unfashionable these days though.

Given those facts, there is not much left to your posts other than some sixth form socialist slogans about a "toilet paper rag" and a "nationalist government."

I am afraid your image of massed ranks of assembled citizens gathered round the Volksempfänger to listen to this year's Winter Hilfe campaign is pure nostalgia.
given that you don't watch TV and don't pay for a licence... i really don't know why you're getting all uppity :scratch:
 

Genau

Senior Member
Location
London
Google: Godwins Law. Always one who mentions it........

BTW...I am no sixth form student, 57 year old graduate & member of Royal Scientific Society. And I have never ever bought The Sun although if it did have a picture of Murdoch on it, I'd enjoy wiping my rear with his face:okay:. No doubt they can run pieces they like, all newspapers do, but you missed the point about attacking the BBC.
You're the one claiming we have a nationalist government. Google "nationalist" and see if you can really apply that to the most centrist government we have had in years.

It's just childish nonsense spewed out in the absence of any real argument. The same as how as everyone is a fascist, it's all the fault of the evil Tories and Murdoch controls the media. For goodness sake, grow up.

And admit you didn't know Murdoch sold Sky years ago and were just trotting out the same old propaganda slogans.
 

Genau

Senior Member
Location
London
oh give over! You're just being argumentative for the sake of it.
This is a TV licence discussion. It has nothing to do with the imaginary black shirt leanings of Boris Johnson or the historic ownership of Sky TV. If someone introduces those issues as a reason to retain a state broadcaster (which isn't actually the discussion anyway) it is relevant to the discussion to rebut them.

Re-reading the comments I can see my only fault was not to point out earlier that the continued existence of the BBC is not quite the same thing as the continued existence of the TV licence. If the BBC is as popular as its supporters say then it will do just fine as a subscription service.

If you don't like people having views different from your own may I suggest you don't go seeking them out in discussion groups?
 
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