Universal Santa Monica MTB?

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nmfeb70

Senior Member
Location
Tonypandy, Wales
Hi All, is anybody out there familiar with a Universal Santa Monica MTB? A relative no longer needs it and has offered it to me. I'd like a 2nd bike to basically hammer the hell out of while my main MTB is offroad (trail?). I've nothing to lose as it is for free, but just thought I'd ask for any opinions. Many Thanks.
 

Cycleops

Legendary Member
Location
Accra, Ghana
It's a cheap bike sold by supermarkets and mail order catalogues but for your intended use should be fine.

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SkipdiverJohn

Deplorable Brexiteer
Location
London
All these budget rigid 26" MTBs from the late 80's onwards are much of a muchness, IMHO. Who actually made it, or whose brand name is on the frame, is not generally that big a deal, in the case of the gas pipe hi-tensile models at least. Just off the top of my head you might encounter Apollo, British Eagle, Emmelle, Falcon, Gemini, Magna, Muddy Fox, Raleigh, Townsend, Trax, Universal, and probably several more others which I have omitted.
There was a fairly standard generic design "formula" for this genre of bikes, in terms of frame angle geometry, frame material, wheelbase, chainstay length, fork rake, frame tube dimensions, cranksets, freewheels, handlebars & stems, & gear shifters.
Whilst there was a bit of variation in componentry, the general rule of thumb was functional but low-budget, especially in relation to gear mechs and wheelsets. They are not going to stand up well to hardcore off road MTB abuse, but for undemanding use on potholed urban roads, gravel and dirt tracks, not involving racing or performing jumps etc, any of them will do the job, and given at least some basic maintenance, they will continue doing the job year after year.
Fortunately or unfortunately, depending if you want to buy or sell, 26" rigids are very much Cinderella bikes currently, and only tend to fetch low prices, except for the more niche bikes with a retro enthusiast following. Very useful and versatile, but not very desirable or valuable.
 
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All these budget rigid 26" MTBs from the late 80's onwards are much of a muchness, IMHO. Who actually made it, or whose brand name is on the frame, is not generally that big a deal, in the case of the gas pipe hi-tensile models at least. Just off the top of my head you might encounter Apollo, British Eagle, Emmelle, Falcon, Gemini, Magna, Muddy Fox, Raleigh, Townsend, Trax, Universal, and probably several more others which I have omitted.
There was a fairly standard generic design "formula" for this genre of bikes, in terms of frame angle geometry, frame material, wheelbase, chainstay length, fork rake, frame tube dimensions, cranksets, freewheels, handlebars & stems, & gear shifters.
Whilst there was a bit of variation in componentry, the general rule of thumb was functional but low-budget, especially in relation to gear mechs and wheelsets. They are not going to stand up well to hardcore off road MTB abuse, but for undemanding use on potholed urban roads, gravel and dirt tracks, not involving racing or performing jumps etc, any of them will do the job, and given at least some basic maintenance, they will continue doing the job year after year.
Fortunately or unfortunately, depending if you want to buy or sell, 26" rigids are very much Cinderella bikes currently, and only tend to fetch low prices, except for the more niche bikes with a retro enthusiast following. Very useful and versatile, but not very desirable or valuable.

I agree with much of your post although I would argue that around the late 80s, early 90s both Raleigh and Muddy Fox in particular had some pretty good mountain bikes, especially the Raleigh SP models. Muddy Fox today is nothing like it was thirty years ago.
 

Gravity Aided

Legendary Member
Location
Land of Lincoln
I agree, some Raleighs were quite nice then, lighter steel, etc, but most mountain bikes like that were made in Taiwan, and very much alike. We do a great trade in them at the bike co-op due to their strength and reliability, among people just seeking basic transportation. When we had one car, I used a Schwinn like that for commuting for some years. although I upgraded components to make it more reliable, and added drop bars. Done the same to another so it can be my heavy duty touring bike, but there I started with a Trek 950, a much better variant, like the higher end Raleighs.
 

SkipdiverJohn

Deplorable Brexiteer
Location
London
I agree with much of your post although I would argue that around the late 80s, early 90s both Raleigh and Muddy Fox in particular had some pretty good mountain bikes, especially the Raleigh SP models. Muddy Fox today is nothing like it was thirty years ago.

I'm not dissing old Raleighs at all, they actually comprise the majority of my bike fleet! The point I was making, is that some of them (such as the Raleigh Lizard for example) were pretty basic quality machines with budget spec components and plain gauge hi-tensile frames, and were direct competitors to some of the catalogue type bikes, such as Universal. Possibly the Raleighs were a bit better, but they were budget offerings all the same.
There were of course, also much better quality ones, with brazed 501 and even 531 frames and decent groupsets, but these were not aimed at the same sort of financially challenged customer. The Special Products offerings were never really mass market - you'll find a hundred secondhand Lizards & Mustangs for every Avanti! Even my 501 framed ones weren't that common.
 
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