William Hill closures threaten jobs.

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Cycleops

Cycleops

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Accra, Ghana
It's a long time since I've been in one but I remember the smell, stale clothes, stale beer and BO.
 

Bonefish Blues

Banging donk
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52 Festive Road
Many moons ago I did part time work for about a year in one (I was also a bingo caller, collected golf balls at a driving range and worked a door/events). At the time I thought the shops were pretty much a replacement for care in the community.
TBH, they are very much a place where people can go and spend good amounts of time with friends & acquaintances without needing to buy anything.

I remember the first day of my induction somewhere near Reading. I went into the shop, started chatting to the manager who looked up at the clock and said that Bob was due in within 5 mins - he likes to bet on greyhounds, probably about 50p, although sometimes a little more, and Crayford's first race is off in 15 minutes.

Bob was in, spent 75p IIRC, and was still there when we left to go elsewhere a couple of hours later. The guy knew pretty much every one of his punters. That's why I think that High St shops should be of much less concern than online.

It was an eye-opener. Oh & @cyclops, it really isn't like that now!
 

Bonefish Blues

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A question to @sheddy

Is betting addiction a problem in our country?

...and yes, one is too many, I completely agree, but this has absolutely all the hallmarks of a frenzy being whipped up, with 'gambling-related' suicides being publicised etc (Guess what rank suicide is in terms of all young men's deaths? https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/a-to-z/s/suicide )

OK, I suppose finding a whipping boy may make us feel better for a while, but we should be unsurprised that society's broader issues aren't fixed by simply doing so. (Oh, and just for giggles in what passes for a career, I've spend a period of time working at a specialist provider of mental health and addiction services)
 
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Fab Foodie

hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
BBC News - William Hill plans 700 store closures putting 4,500 jobs at risk
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48868335
William Hill has said the cap of £2 on fixed bet gaming machines has seen revenues fall sharply in their shops thus forcing the closure of 700 shops and the loss of 4500 jobs.
Is this acceptable given the misery these "crack cocaine" machines can cause? What do CCers think?
At long frikking last. The more pressure on gambling to be shut-down the better. It’s an industry peddling misery as an opportunity.
Good riddance.
 

Bromptonaut

Rohan Man
Location
Bugbrooke UK
Don't think I've ever been in a bookies in my life. Just never fancied it, not even a flutter on the National.

However I've had colleagues who were back and forth to Ladbrokes or wherever on a near hourly basis and see some of the 'hooked' clientele in my work for an advice charity. I also recall an article or series of articles in the Guardian about how de-staffing to cut costs left many smaller offices single manned. Not a good place for anybody when a punter goes ape because the FOBT had eaten all his money.

I've no issue with people putting money on a horse, hound or a game of sport. OTOH I think some of the more involved transactions ohn things like footy scores look a bit involved. The FOBt's were an abomination with the old limit. Inevitably the pendulum may now have swung too far the other way but it was always goingto.
 
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Cycleops

Cycleops

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Gambling itself is not evil but these machines are.
 

Bonefish Blues

Banging donk
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52 Festive Road
Don't think I've ever been in a bookies in my life. Just never fancied it, not even a flutter on the National.

However I've had colleagues who were back and forth to Ladbrokes or wherever on a near hourly basis and see some of the 'hooked' clientele in my work for an advice charity. I also recall an article or series of articles in the Guardian about how de-staffing to cut costs left many smaller offices single manned. Not a good place for anybody when a punter goes ape because the FOBT had eaten all his money.

I've no issue with people putting money on a horse, hound or a game of sport. OTOH I think some of the more involved transactions ohn things like footy scores look a bit involved. The FOBt's were an abomination with the old limit. Inevitably the pendulum may now have swung too far the other way but it was always goingto.
I agree - there are some shops which should have closed at this point. Single staffing is fine at some times of the day, but if it becomes routine just to make a shop pay, then it's time to close the doors.
 
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Cycleops

Cycleops

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Accra, Ghana
Yes.

And it's no accident that whereas others in the thread have multiple betting shops in their high streets there isn't a single one on mine, because I live in a wealthy area. FOBTs are a tax on poverty.
Just thank god you've got a Waitrose :smile:.
 
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