William Hill closures threaten jobs.

Discussion in 'News and Current Affairs' started by Cycleops, 4 Jul 2019.

  1. DP

    DP Chasse patate

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    There are two 24 hour casinos within a couple of km of my house.
     
  2. Rusty Nails

    Rusty Nails We remember

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    It must have been a very long time.
     
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  3. Proto

    Proto Guru

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    Gambling is a tax on the poor and should be banned completely.
     
  4. Smokin Joe

    Smokin Joe Legendary Member

    Utter rubbish.

    For the vast majority of punters gambling is a harmless and enjoyable pursuit. Just because a small minority have a problem with it doesn't mean it should be banned, unless you also think alcohol should be outlawed?

    We could ban them both of course, while remembering that gambling was in the hands of organised crime when it was illegal and prohibition in America made the Mafia what it is today.
     
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  5. Adam4868

    Adam4868 Veteran

    Online gambling is massive now aswell,I wouldn't be surprised if it was a way of getting rid of some overheads.
    I hope it's the shops in the less well off areas they are closing,but I won't hold my breath.
     
  6. Beebo

    Beebo Firm and Fruity

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    I am happy that the FOBT stake was dropped to £2. How can anyone justify £100 per spin on a machine that is programmed to never lose.
    If the only thing keeping the betting shops open is FOBT then I am afraid they will have to go.
     
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  7. Bonefish Blues

    Bonefish Blues Banging donk

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    I understand what you mean, but these machines lose (return) between 90 and 97p depending on the game being played on average. The most popular games typically give the highest return rate. The return rate is on the game for the player to see.
     
  8. Beebo

    Beebo Firm and Fruity

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    People know they will lose, but still keep putting their money in. It is an addiction that needs controlling
    They can still gamble at £2 a spin, just not £100, it seems sensible to me.
     
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  9. Bonefish Blues

    Bonefish Blues Banging donk

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    How many things do you and other people do on which they won't get a return, but from which they get enjoyment?

    Go to a football match? Makes no sense at all, does it, just costs money, got nowt at the end. Drink a pint? Just pisses down the toilet. People do it because they enjoy it, because it's harmless fun in the overwhelming majority of cases. £2 is going to mean a lot of people don't have a job any more. The maximum stake advice of the body charged with regulating the industry was ignored for some reason (cough politics).
     
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  10. OP
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    Cycleops

    Cycleops Guru

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    There's only so much protecting people from themselves the government can do without cries of "nanny state".
    For most people as @Smokin Joe says it's an enjoyable diversion. Then you have professional gamblers, but I do think these machines are so menace.
    I knew somebody that ran a William Hill branch and he told me the amount of money that went through the shop would make your eyes water.
     
  11. Proto

    Proto Guru

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    You’ll have to explain to me how giving your money away is a harmless and enjoyable pursuit. It’s legalised theft and should be discouraged at every opportunity. An evil cancer on any society that tolerates it.
     
  12. Smokin Joe

    Smokin Joe Legendary Member

    You are not "Giving your money away". Having a few quid on a horse makes watching the racing all the more enjoyable, and in return for your affordable stake (Which covers the vast majority of punters) you get the chance of a return, mostly a little but sometimes a decent amount and for the lucky few a life changing sum.

    Of course you could P the money down the toilet of your local instead, if that is your choice. But of course, there isn't an activity under the sun that doesn't have a lobby trying to ban it "For your own good" (Providing it isn't one they themselves do, of course).
     
  13. meta lon

    meta lon Guru


    In a nutshell, their just making an excuse to make it easier, blame the regulations..
     
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  14. Bonefish Blues

    Bonefish Blues Banging donk

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    It's actually rather fewer losses than they predicted and modelled in advance of the decision, so they have obviously mitigated some of the effect. Wait for others to follow.

    ...unless you have some insider knowledge you can share?
     
  15. deptfordmarmoset

    deptfordmarmoset Full time tea drinker

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    That's enough about you, what was the bookie's like?
     
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