I have got the impression that cyclists in groups, of whatever kind, get into a herd mindset and have a tendency to ride badly or even agressively. This seems to apply at every level whether a genteel CTC ride, a group of youths, or serious racer types.
For clarity I, think this is instinctive behaviour for groups of monkeys, us humans included, and cycles are incidental
I had a similar experience over to hebden bridge where a group of 4 caught me as we crested the hill, so I hopped on the back and stayed with them until HB, they were kind enough to point out the dangers on the road etc. Impressively welcoming. 👍
Hmmm, I wouldn't think so.I suspect there was a certain amount of "I can't be expected to stop as I'm clipped in" going on as well
I have heard this when I have stopped in front of someone on a "proper" road bike occasionally
In my opinion it is the cycling equivalent to "I can;t be expected to stop as I have my foot on the accelerator" would be in a car
If they can;t stop properly due to the equipment they have on their bike then they shouldn;t be riding that bike on the road!
But certainly the OP should not have been expected to ride in any way that a normal person going for a ride on a bike would do as opposed to someone who is part of a cycling clique with their own expectations and policies
Hmmm, I wouldn't think so.
Clipless pedals were invented in 1895. They've been around for some time. Toe clips even earlier.
I used toe clips and cleats in the 1980's and got my first modern quick release clipless in 1988.
In all that time I've never heard anyone suggest they can't stop - or don't want to - because they are clipped in. It is far easier with a modern clipless pedal than it used to be with toe clips - back then we had to reach down and loosen the straps first!
Clipless is easy and zero issue for stopping and starting again. Sure, like toe clips that preceded the current quick release systems, there is an initial learning curve over flats but after a few rides its second nature. In fact, you don't actually need to be clipped in to pedal - they do work as flats too if someone is concerned at a stop street. They can ride off and clip in later.
Hmmm, I wouldn't think so.
Clipless pedals were invented in 1895. They've been around for some time. Toe clips even earlier.
I used toe clips and cleats in the 1980's and got my first modern quick release clipless in 1988.
In all that time I've never heard anyone suggest they can't stop - or don't want to - because they are clipped in. It is far easier with a modern clipless pedal than it used to be with toe clips - back then we had to reach down and loosen the straps first!
Clipless is easy and zero issue for stopping and starting again. Sure, like toe clips that preceded the current quick release systems, there is an initial learning curve over flats but after a few rides its second nature. In fact, you don't actually need to be clipped in to pedal - they do work as flats too if someone is concerned at a stop street. They can ride off and clip in later.
At this point there was a lot of swearing from the group behind me, several riders went around me through the roundabout in front of the car, and there were several comments of displeasure about me having stopped. The comments were not directed at me, but meant for me to hear them.
Interesting, I don't do the group cycling thing. Don't do groups full stop. Sometimes cycle with a friend but find it hard to keep up with her. Wouldn't know what a "slowing" sign is. Don't give anything other than left or right turn to any other road user.
I have seen a couple of videos - and it was even said on a TV programme - where someone was justifying cyclist not stopping at red lights and at roundabouts (etc) as he was clipped in so it was difficult (i.e. he didn;t want to) put his foot down to stop
purely the argument of the entitled
but I have heard it said - although not in person as I don't tend to associate with that kind of person!
and I expect the argument has been used ever sincebikes were invented - toe clips, straps and clips are just used to justify a bad argument when the entitled person wants to have "facts" to support his (normally - could be her) behaviour
That's very true. I used to actively avoid putting a foot down when I used toeclips as they were a (minor) faff to re-engage. Not so with clipless.