mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
I think it's what "remind cyclists to be more visible" in that article meant.I don't see anything in that article about hi-viz cycling wear - only the legally required lights.
I think it's what "remind cyclists to be more visible" in that article meant.I don't see anything in that article about hi-viz cycling wear - only the legally required lights.
Similar, not the same. It's part of othering. I'm not saying we're in imminent danger of being carted off to death, but if we tolerate being dressed up ugly, then after a bit more cyclist blaming and motorist excusing, we may well get banned from the roads because we simply can't be trusted not to suck motor vehicles into us or something.No. Not "exactly". MJR is saying that cops suggesting Hi-viz is the same as Nazis/Occupying forces making Jews wear the star of david.
Except they say at the bottom of the piece. My bold.I think it's what "remind cyclists to be more visible" in that article meant.
I get what you are saying but the attempt to justify yourself is not doing you any favours. I'll be more clear:Similar, not the same. It's part of othering. I'm not saying we're in imminent danger of being carted off to death, but if we tolerate being dressed up ugly, then after a bit more cyclist blaming and motorist excusing, we may well get banned from the roads because we simply can't be trusted not to suck motor vehicles into us or something.
But I'll try to remember not to use the term again here, although I didn't think it up - it's in common usage elsewhere. Spirit of the rules
I get what you are saying but the attempt to justify yourself is not doing you any favours. I'll be more clear:
1) Comparing wearing high viz on a bike to the persecution of the Jewish people under the Nazis is insulting and highly inappropriate.
2) Your analogy is faulty. I commonly see horse riders, dog walkers, motorcyclists, delivery drivers, maintenance workers, bin men. school groups and the police wearing yellow high vis. It does not single one out as a cyclist.
If I see the phrase "yellow star jacket" again it will be removed and further action may be taken as you are now aware that it is not considered acceptable.
They don't just wear them because they think its looks nice they wear them out of some sort of feeling that it makes them safer even though it doesn't really. They all share a commonality with cyclists, their main source of injury when out in public to is motor vehicles.
It was only comparing it to the labelling, not all the persecution. It's easy to make it worse by exaggerating the comparison into something else. I thank @jarlrmai for addressing mistaken point 2 as I'm uncomfortable correcting a mod issuing public warnings based on such interpretations.I'll be more clear:
1) Comparing wearing high viz on a bike to the persecution of the Jewish people under the Nazis is insulting and highly inappropriate.
The comparison is rubbish. Jews were required to wear the star every time they left the house, so everyone would know they were Jewish. Cyclists are only "required" (not really) to wear Hi-viz if they are on the bike. And - this may not be obvious to everyone - there is another clue to telling if someone is a cyclist when they are riding a bike: the bicycle under their arse.It was only comparing it to the labelling, not all the persecution. It's easy to make it worse by exaggerating the comparison into something else. I thank @jarlrmai for addressing mistaken point 2 as I'm uncomfortable correcting a mod issuing public warnings based on such interpretations.
I think it's what "remind cyclists to be more visible" in that article meant.
But they also need to do it themsevles.
You feel it was close, report it to them.But they also need to do it themsevles.
because i was cycling and a police van overtook closely just before a roundabout. i didn't say anything best not to argue with police authorities. You would think out of traffic. Police veichles are the least likely to do stupid things because they are in charge of the law.
(Especially after the scheme as well)
Whats the point as theres no evidence?You feel it was close, report it to them.