derrick
The Glue that binds us together.
- Location
- On the edge of London
Have no time for any religion never have, but i do have a daughter who goes every week, it's her choice. the same as anybody else,but it ain't for me.
Are you religious?
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02GF74
Über Member
do you have data to back up that? a lot of wars aren't about religion - off hand I can only nake the crusades.
I have not data either but would guess that disease, pestilance, starvation, plague and old age has killed more.
people are tribal so need something to make them selves different from others be it religion, nationality, football team they support or what cycling forum they post on; if religion wasn't invented, it would have been something else, and it was invented to allay the fear of death.
nickyboy
Norven Mankey
- Location
- You want hills? We got hills
Atheist and man of science here. However, two points to finesse this a bit:
1) I am somewhat envious of people with real faith as this can provide them with something positive to hold onto in difficult times. eg. us science bods accept there is no afterlife, once your dead, that's it whereas belief in the afterlife gives some positivity in death
2) Religion actually gives a good set of guidelines on which to lead a decent life. If everyone lived by the 10 commandments then the world would be a much better place.
Certainly a lot less coveting of your neighbour's oxen must be a good thing, right?
1) I am somewhat envious of people with real faith as this can provide them with something positive to hold onto in difficult times. eg. us science bods accept there is no afterlife, once your dead, that's it whereas belief in the afterlife gives some positivity in death
2) Religion actually gives a good set of guidelines on which to lead a decent life. If everyone lived by the 10 commandments then the world would be a much better place.
Certainly a lot less coveting of your neighbour's oxen must be a good thing, right?
i hate hills
Its my day to be brilliant
No man biggest cause of trouble in the world today.
Hacienda71
Mancunian in self imposed exile in leafy Cheshire
- Location
- Wilmslow, Cheshire
Hopeful agnostic. 
Spinney
Bimbleur extraordinaire
- Location
- Back up north
2) Religion actually gives a good set of guidelines on which to lead a decent life. If everyone lived by the 10 commandments then the world would be a much better place.
Certainly a lot less coveting of your neighbour's oxen must be a good thing, right?
I prefer the Bill and Ted version - it would do just as well!
True, but those tenets are not peculiar to religion: they are found in all cultures at all times.
A convinced atheist, here. And a Buddhist.
gaz
Cycle Camera TV
- Location
- South Croydon
I'm just going to leave this here.
Arch
Married to Night Train
- Location
- Salford, UK
Hold on, how come Speicher and I don't get to be 'the girls in the tea thread' too?
Anyway, once you've taken us out, I think there's only one lady regular left... Unless you count Potsy, but he's not a girl, more a big girl's blouse.
400bhp
Guru
Anyway, once you've taken us out, I think there's only one lady regular left... Unless you count Potsy, but he's not a girl, more a big girl's blouse.
Brilliant! That may go in my sig.
jonny jeez
Legendary Member
- Location
- Chislehurst, Kent, UK
An interesting view, worth watching
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=m_zytOaQxYg
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=m_zytOaQxYg
Arch
Married to Night Train
- Location
- Salford, UK
That pretty much sums it up for me. I listen to talk of theoretical physics, and think "But it's all just made up to fit the universe as we understand it", which is exactly what I feel religion was originally. We can test it and find it fits, but we can't step outside the universe to see if there's another way.
I'm agnostic, for the simple reason (well simple to me) that I can't prove God doesn't exist, anymore than anyone can prove He/She/It/They don't. I find strident atheists like Richard Dawkins as dogmatic as any fundamentalist religionists.
I like the fact that humans have been so curious about the world that we needed to work out how it came about. Now that we know that many animals use and make tools, have self awareness, commit wanton violence etc - all the things we once thought marked humans as unique - perhaps religion is our only defining feature.
Or maybe the animals have that too. I've always enjoyed reading Watership Down for the fact that Adams invented a belief system for rabbits.
DCLane
Found in the Yorkshire hills ...
- Location
- Dewsbury, West Yorkshire
I'm not religious, but I'm a Christian. And go to church each Sunday, etc.
Becs
Veteran
- Location
- Old Hatfield (it's nice honest!)
I agree with Arch about Dawkins - he drives me crazy, and also gives the evangelical religious types a reason to say "atheism is a religion too" (as a crazy ex-boyfriend is inclined to do).
I really struggle not to think less of strongly religious types. I don't understand how people can believe in any of these "higher powers". To me I see no difference in between god and father christmas - except the book about the former is a lot more hard going than anything written about the latter! What makes people think that one fairytale is just that and yet live their lives by another is beyond me.
I really struggle not to think less of strongly religious types. I don't understand how people can believe in any of these "higher powers". To me I see no difference in between god and father christmas - except the book about the former is a lot more hard going than anything written about the latter! What makes people think that one fairytale is just that and yet live their lives by another is beyond me.
