Clarksons take on Motorcyles

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LLB

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Get on one, and you will certainly die :smile: :smile:

Clarkson on a cycle next ?? :tongue:

From The Sunday Times
October 19, 2008
Vespa GTV Navy 125

(Paul Hennessy/Gorilla Pictures)
Jeremy Clarkson
Recently, various newspapers ran a photograph of me on a small motorcycle. They all pointed out that I hate motorbikes and that by riding one I had exposed myself as a hypocrite who should commit suicide immediately.

Hmmm. Had I been photographed riding the local postmistress, then, yes, I’d have been shamed into making some kind of apology. But it was a motorcycle. And I don’t think it even remotely peculiar that a motoring journalist should ride such a thing. Not when there is a problem with the economy and many people are wondering if they should make a switch from four wheels to two.

Unfortunately, you cannot make this switch on a whim, because this is Britain and there are rules. Which means that before climbing on board you must go to a car park, put on a high-visibility jacket and spend the morning driving round some cones while a man called Dave — all motorcycle instructors are called Dave — explains which lever does what.

Afterwards, you will be taken on the road, where you will drive about for several hours in a state of abject fear and misery, and then you will go home and vow never to get on a motorcycle ever again.

This is called compulsory basic training and it allows you to ride any bike up to 125cc. If you want to ride something bigger, you must take a proper test. But, of course, being human, you will not want a bigger bike, because then you will be killed immediately while wearing clothing from the Ann Summers “Dungeon” range.

Right, first things first. The motorbike is not like a car. It will not stand up when left to its own devices. So, when you are not riding it, it must be leant against a wall or a fence. I’m told some bikes come with footstools which can be lowered to keep them upright. But then you have to lift the bike onto this footstool, and that’s like trying to lift up an American.

Next: the controls. Unlike with a car, there seems to be no standardisation in the world of motorcycling. Some have gearlevers on the steering wheel. Some have them on the floor, which means you have to shift with your feet — how stupid is that? — and some are automatic.

Then we get to the brakes. Because bikes are designed by bikers — and bikers, as we all know, are extremely dim — they haven’t worked out how the front and back brake can be applied at the same time. So, to stop the front wheel, you pull a lever on the steering wheel, and to stop the one at the back, you press on a lever with one of your feet.

A word of warning, though. If you use only the front brake, you will fly over the steering wheel and be killed. If you try to use the back one, you will use the wrong foot and change into third gear instead of stopping. So you’ll hit the obstacle you were trying to avoid, and you’ll be killed.

Then there is the steering. The steering wheel comes in the shape of what can only be described as handlebars, but if you turn them — even slightly — while riding along, you will fall off and be killed. What you have to do is lean into the corner, fix your gaze on the course you wish to follow, and then you will fall off and be killed.

As far as the minor controls are concerned, well . . . you get a horn and lights and indicators, all of which are operated by various switches and buttons on the steering wheel, but if you look down to see which one does what, a truck will hit you and you will be killed. Oh, and for some extraordinary reason, the indicators do not self-cancel, which means you will drive with one of them on permanently, which will lead following traffic to think you are turning right. It will then undertake just as you turn left, and you will be killed.

What I’m trying to say here is that, yes, bikes and cars are both forms of transport, but they have nothing in common. Imagining that you can ride a bike because you can drive a car is like imagining you can swallow-dive off a 90ft cliff because you can play table tennis.

However, many people are making the switch because they imagine that having a small motorcycle will be cheap. It isn’t. Sure, the 125cc Vespa I tried can be bought for £3,499, but then you will need a helmet (£300), a jacket (£500), some Freddie Mercury trousers (£100), shoes (£130), a pair of Kevlar gloves (£90), a coffin (£1,000), a headstone (£750), a cremation (£380) and flowers in the church (£200).

In other words, your small 125cc motorcycle, which has no boot, no electric windows, no stereo and no bloody heater even, will end up costing more than a Volkswagen Golf. That said, a bike is much cheaper to run than a car. In fact, it takes only half a litre of fuel to get from your house to the scene of your first fatal accident. Which means that the lifetime cost of running your new bike is just 50p.

So, once you have decided that you would like a bike, the next problem is choosing which one. And the simple answer is that, whatever you select, you will be a laughing stock. Motorbiking has always been a hobby rather than an alternative to proper transport, and as with all hobbies, the people who partake are extremely knowledgeable. It often amazes me that in their short lives bikers manage to learn as much about biking as people who angle, or those who watch trains pull into railway stations.

Whatever. Because they are so knowledgeable, they will know precisely why the bike you select is rubbish and why theirs is superb. Mostly, this has something to do with “getting your knee down”, which is a practice undertaken by bikers moments before the crash that ends their life.

You, of course, being normal, will not be interested in getting your knee down; only in getting to work and most of the way home again before you die. That’s why I chose to test the Vespa, which is much loathed by trainspotting bikers because they say it is a scooter. This is racism. Picking on a machine because it has no crossbar is like picking on a person because he has slitty eyes or brown skin. Frankly, I liked the idea of a bike that has no crossbar, because you can simply walk up to the seat and sit down. Useful if you are Scottish and go about your daily business in a skirt.

I also liked the idea of a Vespa because most bikes are Japanese. This means they are extremely reliable so you cannot avoid a fatal crash by simply breaking down. This is entirely possible on a Vespa because it is made in Italy.

Mind you, there are some drawbacks you might like to consider. The Vespa is not driven by a chain. Instead, the engine is mounted to the side of the rear wheel for reasons that are lost in the mists of time and unimportant anyway. However, it means the bike is wider and fitted with bodywork like a car, to shroud the moving hot bits. That makes it extremely heavy. Trying to pick it up after you’ve fallen off it is impossible.

What’s more, because the heavy engine is on the right, the bike likes turning right much more than it likes turning left. This means that in all left-handed bends, you will be killed.

Unless you’ve been blown off by the sheer speed of the thing. At one point I hit 40mph and it was as though my chest was being battered by a freezing-cold hurricane. It was all I could do to keep a grip on the steering wheel with my frostbitten fingers.

I therefore hated my experience of motorcycling and would not recommend it to anyone.

The Clarksometer

If you like misery, climb aboard



ENGINE 124cc, one cylinder

POWER 14bhp @ 9500rpm

TORQUE 8.5 lb ft @ 8500rpm

TRANSMISSION Automatic

FUEL TANK CAPACITY 9.5 litres

TOP SPEED 63.4mph

PRICE £3,499


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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/dr...le4963194.ece?print=yes&randnum=1225838703209
 

Night Train

Maker of Things
Actually, it sounds about right!
When I learnt to ride a bike I thought the Kawa 500 was big and dangerous so what possessed me to go out and buy a brand new Harley Davidson Night Train before the ink on my new license was dry I don't know. I mean a bike that weighs some 300+kg and has a 1450cc twin cylinder engine when I had all of a week previous riding experience on L plates!
Every time I went out on it I thought 'I'm gonna die!' or 'I'm really gonna die!' or worse, 'I need a wee and it took me 40 minutes to squeeze myself into my leathers and it will take longer to get back out of them!'

I sold it after nearly 3 years as it was costing me £2000 a year insurance. The proceeds got me a fully equiped workshop.
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
I used to ride 24,000 miles a year on my CX650. All I remember about those miles is the cold. I had heated handgrips and body warmer but I used to arrive at my destination in a state of hypothermia. I once rode from east London to Reading for a party in freezing fog and arrived encrusted with so much ice that it tinkled as it fell off me. The cold wind would freeze me to the bones, it would take hours to warm up after a ride.

My first ever long ride was Newcastle to Wolverhampton on a Honda 70, which took me 9 hours. The engine seized in Stafford.
 

yello

Guest
Clarkson is a comic character. He knows where his bread is buttered and ensures he plays to his audience. I'm told he's actually a vegetarian.
 

freakhatz

New Member
Yeah, but didn't Clarkson drive into a brick wall for fun?

Jeremy, if you want to give me advice, wait for the call, OK?
 

simoncc

New Member
Clarkson is a car man though. What's always amused me about car men is that on one hand they pretend that their mass produced vehicle is some kind of racing car, and they go on about how fast it can go etc, but they give the game away when they start going on about the interior decor, the comfy seats, the smooth suspension, the stereo, the heater and all the other creature comforts. Then they sound like a suburban housewife boasting about what a nice comfy and well-decorated front room she has.
 
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LLB

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User1314 said:
I remember reading this and one of the comments left by a reader stood out for me. It basically said that Clarkson was too inept to ride a bike and so had resorted to belittling the whole experience.

The thing about car driving and riding a m/cycle is that the latter can realistically take years to acquire a decent level of skill. A car is very forgiving in this respect. They have yet to build a realistic bike simulator, but the car ones have been around for ages with a degree of realism because of the way a bike leans etc etc
 

ChrisKH

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LLB said:
The thing about car driving and riding a m/cycle is that the latter can realistically take years to acquire a decent level of skill. A car is very forgiving in this respect. They have yet to build a realistic bike simulator, but the car ones have been around for ages with a degree of realism because of the way a bike leans etc etc

So riding a motorcycle without extensive & adequate experience even with front end loaded tuition is inherently unsafe then?
 

swee'pea99

Legendary Member
I'm trying to remember when he changed from being a motoring journalist who wanted to do a proper job of reviewing stuff and did pretty well at it, to a clown who has no interest in journalism.
Perhaps when he or the people who employ him realised that whereas competent journalists who can 'do a proper job of reviewing stuff' are ten a penny, people who can make people laugh are rare, and worth their weight in gold.
 
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LLB

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ChrisKH said:
So riding a motorcycle without extensive & adequate experience even with front end loaded tuition is inherently unsafe then?

You can't put an old head on young shoulders. There is no substitute for experience. It becomes very apparent when following other riders either on the road or track. Training does fast track the learning curve, but it is only as good as the way it is applied by the rider.

The level of competence is generally far higher in motorcycling (where the riders have passed their test) than other modes of transport or they scare themselves or fall off and give up IMO
 
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LLB

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We're talking about a fat bloke riding an auto Vespa. Not someone trying to get the lap record around Donnington. Riding a scooter, as Clarkson was, is little more difficult than riding a bicycle. Which perhaps explains why so many people struggle with scooters -they've never ridden a bike on the road.

Saying that, maybe they should make 6 months of bicycling compulsory as part of the CBT.

My kid wants to get a moped for her commute to 6th form.

I have insisted (and she's agreed) that she will come out on the cycles with me before she goes for her CBT, and that when she does get legal on a moped, that she goes on a few accompanied ride so I can satisfy myself that she has grasped a minimum level of competency in roadcraft.
 

GaryA

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God does indeed ride a motorcycle :biggrin:
Clarkson has trouble balancing his own pot-bellied flat footed wooly mopped carcass on his own two feet never mind on two wheels :ohmy:
 
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