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As a survival guide it is generally reasonable advice. ... So to answer your question properly, I would preface the book with a page basically expressing what I said in there last comment, that this is a survival manual only, and not to be taken as the foundation for any meaningful growth in cycling rates.
I suggest that modification of behaviour could be achieved overnight if all existing speed limits on shared use roads were converted from mph to kph i.e. 30 mph becomes 30kph, or if, at the very least, urban default speed limits were reduced to 20mph and enforced..... It's the Portsmouth model and it appears to work.
same old vehicularist vs segregationalist arguments being trotted out in the comments there. hardly advancing the cause of cycling. we divide ourselves time and time again over this issue instead of holding highway authorities' people's feet to the fire, and thus we get conquered over and over.
The car isn't going away. UK urban planners are not suddenly going to build dutch/danish style infrastructure, even if there were the room, nor are taxpayers going to fund the same. We have an existing road infrastructure that would be used effectively by cars and cyclists alike IF driver behaviour were modified.
I suggest that modification of behaviour could be achieved overnight if all existing speed limits on shared use roads were converted from mph to kph i.e. 30 mph becomes 30kph, or if, at the very least, urban default speed limits were reduced to 20mph and enforced..... It's the Portsmouth model and it appears to work.
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your man 'aseasyasridingonabike' has his head stuck up his fundament. As I have comprehensively proved cycling in the Netherlands is not so much safer than cycling in other places, particularly London. He should get out more.
I agree. The difference in cycling safety between the Netherlands and the UK can be explained completely by the Safety in Numbers effect. And the one thing that cycle facilities do no do, as shown by the Dutch, Danish, German and Irish experiences and our own in Milton Keynes, Stevenage and East Kilbride, is increase the numbers cycling.
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your man 'aseasyasridingonabike' has his head stuck up his fundament. As I have comprehensively proved cycling in the Netherlands is not so much safer than cycling in other places, particularly London. He should get out more.
And cyclists should grow up a bit. Cycling in and of itself isn't important. Making streets safe and congenial can be achieved with or without cycling. It's up to cycling campaigners to demonstrate that cycling can make a contribution.
I agree. The difference in cycling safety between the Netherlands and the UK can be explained completely by the Safety in Numbers effect.
actually there isn't that big of a difference, and, yes. MK and Stevenage tell a really sorry tale (I've not been to East Kilbride)I agree. The difference in cycling safety between the Netherlands and the UK can be explained completely by the Safety in Numbers effect. And the one thing that cycle facilities do no do, as shown by the Dutch, Danish, German and Irish experiences and our own in Milton Keynes, Stevenage and East Kilbride, is increase the numbers cycling.
As to cyclecraft - well it helped me a bit with cycling. But my wife (who has started to cycle occasionally) just laughed all through it. She hates interacting with cars and is - by her own admission - much slower than the average cyclist in London at the moment. So this lack of speed and unwillingness to mix it with cars makes her cycling experience completely different to mine. I don't think she is alone in this - I can easily imagine the "unwritten rules" of vehicular cycling have put off more than one person looking to cycle. I completely agree that techniques in "Cyclecraft" are useful for vehicular cyclists, but much of the population has absolutely no interest in engaging in this activity.
than extra-urban cycling in Britain? Assuredly so. Than urban cycling in Britain? Not really.Your numbers showed that cycling in the Netherlands is distinctly more safe