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matticus
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Yeah, me.
If I'd only trained a bit more ...
If I'd only trained a bit more ...
Dogtrousers
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Check out this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_Crown_of_Cycling
Lots of lovely stats.
Depends what you mean by "come close". I guess you could analyse all riders who have finished all 3 in a single season and figure out who has the best results - and award them the crown of "closest". Or you could say that Froome/Hinault/Merckx where close by winning all 3 consecutively (but not in the same season)
Lots of lovely stats.
Depends what you mean by "come close". I guess you could analyse all riders who have finished all 3 in a single season and figure out who has the best results - and award them the crown of "closest". Or you could say that Froome/Hinault/Merckx where close by winning all 3 consecutively (but not in the same season)
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Dogtrousers
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OK, Lunchime has been wasted faffing around with a spreadsheet.
I'm going to award my title of "closest" to (drum roll) ...
Gastone Nencini (ITA) 1957. He is one of only two riders to have achieved three top 10s in the same season, and he actually won one of them - being one of only two riders to complete all three and win at least one in a season. (T:6, G:1; V:9) He went on to win the tour in 1960 (which he did without winning a stage)
Second place goes to ...
Sepp Kuss (USA) 2023. He's the only rider apart from Nencini to complete all 3 and win at least one in a single season. But he was outside the top 10 in the two that he didn't win, so is pipped for the top spot. (T:14, G:12, V:1)
And the podium is completed by ...
Raphaël Géminiani (FRA) 1955. He's the only rider apart from Nencini to achieve three top 10s in a single season. He was more consistent than Nencini and Kuss (worst was 6th that year) but didn't actually get a win, so I'm demoting him to third for that (T:6, G:4, V:3)
Honourable mentions to those who finished all three in a season and got at least one podium.
Bernardo Ruiz (ESP) 1957 (T:24,G:55,V:3)
Marino Lejarreta (ESP) 1991 (T:53,G:5,V:3)
Carlos Sastre (ESP) 2006 (T:3,G:43,V:4)
Marzio Bruseghin (ITA) 2008 (T:26,G:3,V:10)
Alejandro Valverde (ESP) 2016 (T:6,G:3,V:12)
And a special prize for the only rider to complete all 3 in a season and never finish better than 100th
Julian Dean (NZL) 2009 (T:121,G:136,V:132) who coincidentally also holds the record for being the recipient of the most headbutts from Mark Renshaw.
I'm going to award my title of "closest" to (drum roll) ...
Gastone Nencini (ITA) 1957. He is one of only two riders to have achieved three top 10s in the same season, and he actually won one of them - being one of only two riders to complete all three and win at least one in a season. (T:6, G:1; V:9) He went on to win the tour in 1960 (which he did without winning a stage)
Second place goes to ...
Sepp Kuss (USA) 2023. He's the only rider apart from Nencini to complete all 3 and win at least one in a single season. But he was outside the top 10 in the two that he didn't win, so is pipped for the top spot. (T:14, G:12, V:1)
And the podium is completed by ...
Raphaël Géminiani (FRA) 1955. He's the only rider apart from Nencini to achieve three top 10s in a single season. He was more consistent than Nencini and Kuss (worst was 6th that year) but didn't actually get a win, so I'm demoting him to third for that (T:6, G:4, V:3)
Honourable mentions to those who finished all three in a season and got at least one podium.
Bernardo Ruiz (ESP) 1957 (T:24,G:55,V:3)
Marino Lejarreta (ESP) 1991 (T:53,G:5,V:3)
Carlos Sastre (ESP) 2006 (T:3,G:43,V:4)
Marzio Bruseghin (ITA) 2008 (T:26,G:3,V:10)
Alejandro Valverde (ESP) 2016 (T:6,G:3,V:12)
And a special prize for the only rider to complete all 3 in a season and never finish better than 100th
Julian Dean (NZL) 2009 (T:121,G:136,V:132) who coincidentally also holds the record for being the recipient of the most headbutts from Mark Renshaw.
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matticus
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Dogtrousers
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OMG, what a story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastone_Nencini#Downhill_race
It's terrible where these rabbit holes take you, isn't it? https://www.giroditalia.it/en/news/memories-of-vasto-1959-nencinis-comeback/
Dogtrousers
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And here's more about Nencini
https://capovelo.com/gastone-nencini/
Including a great picture of him with Yvette Horner, who in addition to riding round on top of a car in the sun playing the accordion seemed to have had a job as the Tour's one and only "podium girl" in those days
https://capovelo.com/gastone-nencini/
Including a great picture of him with Yvette Horner, who in addition to riding round on top of a car in the sun playing the accordion seemed to have had a job as the Tour's one and only "podium girl" in those days
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T4tomo
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Also famously the wife of the 2013 Vuelta Winner Chris Horner.
Dogtrousers
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I thought that was Ginger Spice?
Beebo
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I can see why you have chosen winning as a crucial selection criteria and demoted Geminiani, but as you say he was actually the most consistent.
If you take an average of their positions over the year
Nencini - ave 5.3
Kuss - ave 9
Geniniani - ave 4.3
Anyway I presume the thread was started due to the dominance of a certain rider and team.
It would be a staggering achievement to win all three.
Dogtrousers
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Yeah, I had Kuss and Geminiani the other way round to begin with. But then I figured if the aim is to see how close you are to winning all three, then winning one has to trump winning none.
Jameshow
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Grandma perhaps!
matticus
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Gee, that guy had taste, didn't he? Hmm?
Perhaps the interesting speculation, is how much higher would Kuss have been wiithout his support duties in Giro+Tour?
Of course we can never know ...
Indeed. Although I very much doubt Pog will win two this year.
Dogtrousers
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History is against him. As is Mr Fishguts himself Jonas Vingegaard
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Wester
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When i say CLOSE i mean finishing 2nd , 3rd , 4th
