Inconsistencies or plot holes in films

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captain nemo1701

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It's all ejected out into space, it's why you aren't allowed to flush when you are at the Space Station

Its actually recycled, broken down at the molecular level. There's an episode of Enterprise where Trip has to write a piece for schoolkids back on earth and he gets the 'poop' question. In an episode of Voyager, there is a reference to a 'line for the bathroom', so they do have lavs on starships:

https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/81086/Ī‘re-there-bathrooms-on-the-enterprise
 

Mad Doug Biker

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Its actually recycled, broken down at the molecular level. There's an episode of Enterprise where Trip has to write a piece for schoolkids back on earth and he gets the 'poop' question. In an episode of Voyager, there is a reference to a 'line for the bathroom', so they do have lavs on starships:

https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/81086/Ī‘re-there-bathrooms-on-the-enterprise

Allright allright, no need to lessen my already weak joke... šŸ™„šŸ˜†
 
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Beebo

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Any scene in Starwars or the various spin-offs where they have to fly to some far off planet to find someone.
They always either land or crash land exactly where they need to be. What are the odds of that?
Imagine having to find someone on Earth just by guessing where they might be.
 

captain nemo1701

Space cadet. Deck 42 Main Engineering.
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Bristol
This one occurred to me.

In The Martian the astronaut Mark Watney dig sup the radioactive isotope RTG generator and shoves it in the cab of his buggy thing to keep him warm. He then spends a load of time fannying about and modifying the buggy to extend its range with portable solar panels.

Now, the RTG is an electric generator, so why not just connect the bloody thing to the buggy and use that to power it and thus give it indefinite range with no need to stop to charge?

So what plot holes or inconsistencies have you spotted in the movies?

The wind that blows him off his feet & almost topples the rocket is poetic licence. The Martian atmosphere is much thinner than ours - about 100 times less - so that wind would probably feel like a mild breeze.
Any scene in Starwars or the various spin-offs where they have to fly to some far off planet to find someone.
They always either land or crash land exactly where they need to be. What are the odds of that?
Imagine having to find someone on Earth just by guessing where they might be.

Never take a shuttle in Voyager as they always crash....
 
Any scene in Starwars or the various spin-offs where they have to fly to some far off planet to find someone.
They always either land or crash land exactly where they need to be. What are the odds of that?
Imagine having to find someone on Earth just by guessing where they might be.

In Battlestar Galactica, one unfortunate crew make a jump to a poorly defined destination which is inside the rock of a planet. It did not go well. What happens with Star Trek transporters. Do they ever reassemble your molecules around a lamp post?
 
The Back to the Future series is riddled with them. And I mean plot holes that break the very rules set out in the films.

Example: in BTTF we see Einstein sent forward in time by 1 minute as a test. The car and the dog disappear and then reappear a minute later and Doc Brown carefully explains that to Einstein it all happened instantly. Then in BTTF2 Marty and Jennifer go forward in time to 2015. This time, however, they meet or see future versions of themselves. Where did they come from? Since they removed themselves from the timeline by fast-forwarding to the future, where did these other thems come from? Einstein never met a future version of himself so why did they?

Another: in BTTF2 old Biff takes the Delorean back to 1955 and gives himself the Sports Almanac. Later in the film Doc Brown explains that this created a skewed timeline which led to the distopian alternate 1985. However, Biff still manages to return to the original 1985, despite having already skewed the timeline.

These are not just ā€œsuspend belief, itā€™s sci-ifā€, these are plot holes that counter the very explanations laid out within the films themselves.

Einstein doesn't meet himself as he never returned to his original timeline to live out that minute, Doc removed him from the Delorean and carried on always perpetually 1 minute ahead of everyone else. Marty and Jennifer though, at the culmination of the events of BttF3, have returned to their original timeline and thus are free to live out their lives and eventually meet their past selves in 2015. If 1985 Marty and Jennifer hadn't met themselves in 2015 that should have suggested to them something is going to go very wrong!

Biff on the other hand is an inconsistancy, I've read various theories about how he was able to return to original 2015. My favourite being as he doesn't disapear until after he returns to 2015 (a few minutes in real time after giving his past self the book) it suggests that 1955 Biff wasn't able to make enough difference to change the timeline in those few minutes, but once 2015 Biff arrives back in 2015 those 60 years that have now passed are enough to alter the timeline.

I love BttF, could talk theories all day on it! ^_^


The wind that blows him off his feet & almost topples the rocket is poetic licence. The Martian atmosphere is much thinner than ours - about 100 times less - so that wind would probably feel like a mild breeze.


Never take a shuttle in Voyager as they always crash....

The filmakers admitted the wind is exagerrated to act as a pot device to set up the film, they couldn't think of a more realistic way to do it apparently.
 

Alex321

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The Back to the Future series is riddled with them. And I mean plot holes that break the very rules set out in the films.

Example: in BTTF we see Einstein sent forward in time by 1 minute as a test. The car and the dog disappear and then reappear a minute later and Doc Brown carefully explains that to Einstein it all happened instantly. Then in BTTF2 Marty and Jennifer go forward in time to 2015. This time, however, they meet or see future versions of themselves. Where did they come from? Since they removed themselves from the timeline by fast-forwarding to the future, where did these other thems come from? Einstein never met a future version of himself so why did they?

Einstein went forward and stayed there. They didn't, they went back to their original time, so of course they were then present in the future. That one makes perfect sense.


Another: in BTTF2 old Biff takes the Delorean back to 1955 and gives himself the Sports Almanac. Later in the film Doc Brown explains that this created a skewed timeline which led to the distopian alternate 1985. However, Biff still manages to return to the original 1985, despite having already skewed the timeline.

Agreed on this one. It is a major flaw.
 

captain nemo1701

Space cadet. Deck 42 Main Engineering.
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Bristol
Einstein went forward and stayed there. They didn't, they went back to their original time, so of course they were then present in the future. That one makes perfect sense.




Agreed on this one. It is a major flaw.

If I recall correctly, Biff returns to the alternate 2015 created initially by Marty in the first movie. He's seen apparently in pain, staggering from the car presumably since he's changing as the dystopian 1985 takes hold and the equally dysfunctional 2015 is starting to emerge as the wave of change hits from the past?
 

captain nemo1701

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Why is it only ever the security guards in Star Trek that get killed?

Its 'traditional' :laugh: .

A running gag from the original series, its why Roddenberry had all command staff in burgundy-red in ST TNG although in the episode 'Where Silence has Lease', they do kill off an ethnic minority in a red uniform. In Star Trek: Into Darkness (2013), Chekov is promoted to Chief Engineer and Kirk pats him on the shoulder with '..put on the red shirt'.
 

Threevok

Growing old disgracefully
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The 10 Star Trek rules of survival

1) Never beam down to a planet wearing a red shirt - especially before the main titles go up.

2) Never wander off alone, around the back of some rocks, or into a cave - especially wearing a red shirt and/or before the main titles go up.

3) Never bother looking for enemies on the port bow. They are always on the starboard bow, so concentrate your efforts there.

4) When engaging in space battles, always shield the port nacelle from the enemy. Itā€™s the most vulnerable part of the ship and the first thing they aim for.

5) Never get into a shuttle, especially before the main titles go up, or you will crash.

6) Never get into a transporter, especially before the main titles go up, or you will end up body-swapped, thrown back in time, or in an alternate hipster universe, where everyone is evil and has pointy beards.

7) If you rescue someone and they try to kill you and/or steal your ship, kill them. Donā€™t let them off the hook, only to have them try again ā€“ several episodes or 18 years later.

8) Beware of any romantic interest that has letterbox lighting over their eyes and violins playing in the background. Chances are theyā€™re an alien and they want your ship (see rule 7).

9) When making first contact with a lesser-developed culture (despite the prime directive forbidding you to do so) make sure the Klingons havenā€™t beaten you to it. Itā€™s usually a trap.

10) Never get stationed at a remote outpost, colony or space station (with the exception of Deep Space 9) or youā€™ll be found mad or dead, even before the main titles go up.
 
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