Raleigh date please

[paul-kent]

I have a bike to move on but I'd like to know the date of it before hand
Found a stamp on the seat tube but I'm guessing there's one on the bb too?

 

[roadrash]

easiest to check the date stamp on the rear sturmey archer hub, presuming its original that is

 

[paul-kent]

Blank, early ones never had date stamps

 

[Tony Raynor]

I'm guessing anywhere from mid forties to early 50s. See link below

http://www.kurtkaminer.com/TH_raleigh_serials.html#47

 

[paul-kent]

Really helpful, thankyou

 

[classic33]

Is that a four/five speed hub fitted, or just one of the nuts, with the indicator hole, on the lefthandside?

 

[User42423]

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I have a bike to move on but I'd like to know the date of it before hand
Found a stamp on the seat tube but I'm guessing there's one on the bb too?

Looking at the frame number (in pic), it could read 60984 O. However, I've just looked at my Raleigh frame number list, & it only gives pre-fix letter A-X. I think you number is more likely to be U 60984. This indicates a build year of 1934. Looking at your other image of bike, I think this is right. Is the 3-speed Sturmey box dated?.

 

[paul-kent]

Afaik it's a 3 speed hub.
I'll get better pics over the weekend.

 

[Bobin]

Here is a list which may help you . It suggest 1934 http://www.oldbike.eu/museum/frame-number-bicycle-dating-guide/


Bob

 

[paul-kent]

Wow. Many thanks.
When were cable brakes first available ?

 

[classic33]

Wow. Many thanks.
When were cable brakes first available ?

Late 1890's - early 20th century. Patent granted 1896 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Monnington_Bowden

 

[User42423]

Hi. To a certain extent you are correct, the very early Sturmey Archer gears were undated (unstamped). Date stamping was 1st introduced in c1909 with the V type hub. The enclosed images show the two different styles of stamping. The 1st example is 1925, while the 2nd is 1936.

 

[User42423]

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I have a bike to move on but I'd like to know the date of it before hand
Found a stamp on the seat tube but I'm guessing there's one on the bb too?

Although I'm not confirming this is your machine, this is the nearest comparison I could find. 1931

 

[User42423]

Wow. Many thanks.
When were cable brakes first available ?

Hi. With regards to cable brakes, the 1st true use was in c1901.