A man's best friend?
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mr Mag00
rising member
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yh it it sad, happened near here a few years ago. here the dog survived, most of the time they do as they can swim really well, i think people forget that. such a shame
Flying_Monkey
Recyclist
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- Odawa
02GF74 said:
I am sure they didn't think they were going to die. Condemning people is very easy.
numbnuts
Squire
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- Gone over the hill and far away
very sad
Hover Fly
He, him, his
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- Besides the lake, beneath the trees
It's the cold, the blood vessels in the limbs constrict so you lose sensation in them and can't move coordinatedly.
ColinJ
Puzzle game procrastinator!
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- Todmorden - Yorks/Lancs border
It's one thing to be a strong swimmer in warm stationary water such as a heated swimming pool. It's another to be in rapidly moving cold water!peanut said:
As described above - the cold would really shock your body.
1 cubic metre of water weighs a tonne (pretty much equal to an imperial ton). If your legs present a surface area of about 0.5 square metres to the water and it is moving at 2 metres per second (only about 4.5 mph) then you are going to be hit by a tonne of water per second. I don't care how strong you are, that's going to take some resisting...
When you think about it, a water cannon can knock a rioter off his feet. What would the equivalent of 20 or 30 of them do?
The couple should have been aware that dogs love to dive into rivers. Their dogs should have been kept on leads since the river was in spate. You wouldn't let your children swim in a raging torrent, so why allow your dogs to?
Yes, it is a tragic case. And after all of that, it looks as though the dogs died too (certainly one of them did)...
Ranger
New Member
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- Fife borders
peanut said:
Until you actually do it you have no idea how badly entering very cold water can affect you. I once did a an assault course that involved jumping into a lake in March. The impact on my body was unbelievable, I forgot how to breathe let along swim, the only thing that kept me above the water was the safety diver. I was not the only one and we were a group of fit people in our early 20's who had been told what to expect.
Add in fast flowing water (branches, rocks, plant material) and it is all too easy to see how someone can quickly get into trouble
Arch
Married to Night Train
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- Salford, UK
Isn't there also the issue of the gasp reflex when you hit cold water, so the first thing you might do is inadvertantly breathe in a lungful of water...
Stupid to condemn them. It wasn't smart, but in moments of crisis many/most people don't stop to think - in fact that's the sort of thing that separates a member of the public from a professional - the ability to step back and think in an emergency.
Stupid to condemn them. It wasn't smart, but in moments of crisis many/most people don't stop to think - in fact that's the sort of thing that separates a member of the public from a professional - the ability to step back and think in an emergency.
newbiebiker
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I'm not a good swimmer so probably I will not jump and save my dogs.
Mr Pig
New Member
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- North Lanarkshire
Yes, it is very tragic but I'm sorry, these people are idiots. Remember the incident a few years ago at Blackpool? Dog falls in the sea, idiot owner jumps in to save the dog and two police officers jump in to save her. Three human beings die, dog swims to shore and is fine!
Anyone thick enough to think that they can do anything to help a dog in water deserves what they get. Sorry for the kid though, tough break. Hope she grows up to have better priorities than her parents.
Anyone thick enough to think that they can do anything to help a dog in water deserves what they get. Sorry for the kid though, tough break. Hope she grows up to have better priorities than her parents.
Mr Pig said:
Are you some sort of idiot? no body deserves to die especially not for trying to save someone. No body other than a 7 month old girl witnessed it so you can only speculate the scenario and you are condeming people that are no longer here.
Going after someone (or someone that has gone after a pet for that matter) in these scenario's are tragic misjudgments not acts of stupidity!
When faced with dramatic situations like this your mind can play tricks on you and decisions are made in an instant. If you had 20 minutes to weigh up the pro's and cons and check the water temperature you may make a different choice. Its human nature to care... If your partner got swept down river/out to sea would you just sit back and say stupid idiot and walk off or would you try and save them? For that matter if you saw a complete stranger in trouble would you decide whether it was their 'stupidity' that got them into trouble before yo decided whether to do all you could to help?
