Blowing my budget >> Charge plug one vs Cross check

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Stef 1

Senior Member
Location
Cotswolds, UK
Hey all,

I need a little help with sense and reason. I'm spending an unhealthy amount of time researching this when I could've done a few hundred miles already, so hoping your experience can help.

After my first few posts on here I was pretty settled on buying a Charge Plug 1 as a couple of online places currently have a good price and generally it seems to be seen in a fairly positive light. I fancy the idea of a single speed at the moment and it'd be a decent upgrade to my ageing, super cheap MTB. At around £360 the Plug 1 was at the top end of my budget.

My riding is 10 - 15 mile round trip daily commute depending upon route. A few smallish inclines... nothing I couldn't manage on a SS. Then a bit of fun at weekends... nothing too serious. I live in the Cotswolds so roads (especially B-roads) aren't exactly 'smooth'.

In the last couple of weeks I've started thinking longer term and after a lot of reading like the idea of a Surly Cross Check. Seems like a very versatile bike with lots of scope for a looong life in multiple guises. I like that idea... that I can hange it to a geared bike later in life, add guards for the winter, or change width of tyre etc etc, being able to take off the road and onto forest track etc... From what I read, people seem to love them although I can find very little comment about the SS variant.

The Cross check can be bought built as a Single speed for £730. Not far off double my initial budget. Or as just a frame for a little under £300.

I can't easily afford a pre-built Cross Check, and not sure how I'd persuade my better half, but there's a chance I could be persuaded that its the better option in the long run if I can find a way to finance it. So I have a few of questions:

1) with the cross check being double my initial budget should I just stick with the Charge Plug 1 which I can afford without trouble right now. For my kind of riding do you think the Plug 1 will be suitable? Or should I somehow 'stump-up' or find the extra for a cross-check?

2) If I take the (I'm presuming) relatively budget components of a Plug 1 as a base-line, how much do you reckon I'd need to spend build my own CrossCheck SS on a budget? I can then upgrade bit by bit at a later date. Could I do the whole thing for under £500 as an initial 'budget' orientated starting build, or is the pre-built SS version the minimum I should expect to pay?

3) Not built a bike before, but it's the kind if thing I take to without much difficulty. Is it essentially to spend a bunch of specialised tools, stands etc?

4) It seems cross-checks don't really come up for sale second hand which says a lot about them. Is it worth holding out for a second one that's the right size or will I still be here waiting in a year or two?

I guess I'm really on the fence which way to go. I realise they're different beasts so it's not a straight comparison.
For someone like me, can the extra £££ of a crosscheck be justified?

Just need a little help firming my sights on one or the other.....

Thanks
 

Cycleops

Legendary Member
Location
Accra, Ghana
Seems you are a person who can't make up their mind. I don't really understand why you are teasing yourself with the Surly which you can't afford. The riding experience won't be that different if at all. If you want to own a SS then go ahead and buy what you can afford, simple.
 
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Stef 1

Stef 1

Senior Member
Location
Cotswolds, UK
lol - that is partially true Cyclelops. It does take me a while to settle on a decision, but only as I like to make sure I'm spending my dollar on the right thing!

I'm the same with anything... AV stuff, cars even my house to an extent, but then I'm generally happy with the choices I do eventually make as I like to think they're well informed and I know I've explored most avenues even though the evenings of research does make my missus laugh. It's just part of the process for me.

For me value for money isn't just about cost. Its about longevity, quality, perceived happiness, versatility... all sorts of stuff. So with that in mind, I wouldn't really say I'm teasing myself with a Surly, as it's not out of my reach – just a lot more than I'd initially planned for and a lot more than my initial uninformed budget... but I'd like to know is the extra £££ worth adjusting my goal posts for. SO for me, not so simple.

In your opinion (which of course I value all opinions) - you indicate that you don't think there'd be much perceivable difference between riding the two in a SS setup? That's really very useful to know. So in a SS setup the Charge wins?

I guess my concern is that if my commute were to change, or I decided after a year or so that SS wasn't for me the Charge Plug 1 doesn't leave me with many options. But it does look pretty neat and appears good value for money.

I guess I'm also looking to maybe have my decision to buy a SS at all challenged. I really do like the idea for a few reasons, but would I be wiser to buy something were gears are at least an option?

Thanks again
 
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Stef 1

Stef 1

Senior Member
Location
Cotswolds, UK
There you go :smile:
Fortunately I don't have to go that route – I still have a kidney, or even kids I can ebay! Or maybe I'll just delay buying our second tropical island winter home and not tell the missus ;)
 

Cycleops

Legendary Member
Location
Accra, Ghana
I guess I'm also looking to maybe have my decision to buy a SS at all challenged. I really do like the idea for a few reasons, but would I be wiser to buy something were gears are at least an option?
VFM the Charge is a solid buy but with bikes it is not generally economically viable to totally change it from one type to another, I.e. SS to gears, there are many reasons which I won't go into. Suffice it to say if you want gears it is better to sell the bike and buy a model with derailleurs.
 

GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
There are frames out there that you can run fixed/ss/hub/railers if you want, like the Surly Straggler.

However to address the OP's point... buy the flippin' Plug. If the bug bites ride it while you save up for a better quality frame/bike. Loads of us have gone down that route, yes, may be more overall outlay in the long term but is often easier to swallow in the wallet that way on any given pay day.
 
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Stef 1

Stef 1

Senior Member
Location
Cotswolds, UK
Thanks for your replies :smile:
I think I'm going to take your advice and buying something cheaper now, with an eye on upgrading in the future if I'm still peddling in a year.

Anyhow, apologies for dragging this out but I'm now looking at other options – the Charge Plug 1 is still very much in the picture (I think it's a looker), but checking out a few things first where a couple of mud guards and a few other other bits n bobs might not be so tricky to attach for winer riding.

Spent the evening looking at used option but have my eye on a couple of used Cotic bikes... (Roadrat and Escapade).

Can't find that much info on them and not come accords them before.
Anyone know much about them especially the Cotic Roadrat?
The reviews appear okay but in reality they're few and far between.
 

vickster

Squire
Discussion if you use the search function e.g. http://www.cyclechat.net/search/4168012/?q=cotic+roadrat&o=relevance&c[node]=39

Look through the fixed/SS forum too
 
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Stef 1

Stef 1

Senior Member
Location
Cotswolds, UK
Thanks Vickster - I did search last night, lots, but from what I found those posts don't shed much light at all... mainly folk asking about it - though anything I do find seems to generally be on the positive side of things. I'll keep looking.
 
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Stef 1

Stef 1

Senior Member
Location
Cotswolds, UK
Just taken me 10 mins to realise LFGSS isn't actually a make or model of bike... :whistle:

Now I'm looking second hand too all sorts of possibilities open up. Too much choice and a whole lot more research....
 
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