Broke my own Golden Rule

[Cush]

Today I had great ride in full touring rigg as a try out for two weeks time when I go off for week. It was a lovely ride in varied country from Ulverston to Ravenglass.
Finished at Ravenglass and boarded the train for Carlisle. Large family allso got on at Ravenglass (maybe they were two or more familys) one boy may eight or nine, a girl maybe six and two children in arms, with the mothers maybe mid twenty's. At first they were noisy but reasonably well behaved, then as there became a little more room on the train, the boy started jumping on the seats useing them as a trampoline. In the finish up I went and told him to stop it before he hurt himself, trampolining stopped and boy was very quiet for the rest of the journey. Neither mother said any thing till they were leaving the train when one of them opened up and I got my family history and it was made clear "that no one should talk to her son".
Now year's ago when a bunch of fourteen year old girls were f'ing and blinding in front of a local school I asked them to stop and then reported their behavior to the assistant head master and was near enough accused of being a pervert for speaking to the little darlings.
Since that day I have made it a Golden Rule not get involved with children regardless of how badly behaved they are. That is untll today and in all honesty I think I did right but from the attitude of the parents I half wished I hadnt said any thing.

 

[Ian 74]

Somebody has to take responsibility if the parents won't. You paid your money to ride on the train and have a right not to be in a carriage with yobos disturbing your peace. I also would have said something... It would probably also have lead to a verbal. Its a funny old world we live in.

If as your post suggests you are sensitive about this kind of thing maybe moving to another carriage next time would be better for your peace of mind.

Good luck with the touring. I have an uncle in ulverston!

oh yes when I was in my twenties I threw a couple of teenys of a train for verbally attacking the train conductor, it was near liverpool, I had enough when they slapped the man, they must have been about 12, proper yobos. They were surprised when I picked one of them up by the back of the neck. Next stop escorted them off the train... I could do jail time for that, but everybody else on the crowded train just looked on as the yobos attacked the train conductor? Madness. I don't think they had bought tickets anyway.

 

[JonnyBlade]

Some on here think that children can do as they please, even run free on cycle tracks

 

[Cush]

I have nothing against the kids been a bit stroppy, it is part of growing up and there was probably no one worse than my self when I was in my early teens and maybe right through to my mid twenties (even though I was in the army at the time) but our generation knew how far to push it and people were expected to behave in public. The problem now is the attitude of many young parents, who do not appreciate that a bit of stick is not a bad thing who ever it comes from and they are passing this on to the next generation and this can be seen in the recent riots and the attitude of some of the parents who were interviewed. I do realy fear that we will see a right wing backlash against parents in the near future and it will go too far.

 

[Hover Fly]

from Ulverston to Ravenglass.

You would have passed the house where I am staying for a while. By the climb out of U'ston, if you took the B road to Broughton.

 

[Archie_tect]

Any parent who hasn't taught a child properly and hasn't instilled a conscience and a moral code in it by the age of 5 has failed. There, I have spoken.

 

[XmisterIS]

IME it is best to speak to the parent rather than the child. I rarely do it; the last time was in ASDA, a brat young boy was running around, throwing things around, screaming, grabbed hold of my trolley and started shaking it around as I was trying to unload the food onto the conveyor. The mother was behind me, just watched and said nothing, until I asked her, "excuse me please, could you ask him to stop doing that?". The response I got, in a thick Portsmouth accent, was, "fack orf you facking knob!" Drop the bomb, I tell you, drop the bomb ...

 

[Seigi]

I understand the frustration of....annoying children on the train, while I'm not particularly a grumpy old man just yet, I can see it being an inevitability - We were returning on the train from a weekend in Manchester and on the way 2 loud mouthed children with their father were sitting a couple of seats in front, at first they we separated so they were shouting across the aisle to each other, eventually they sat together and it was calm for a while, then it all started again, but this time the father was just as bad telling his children to "F**k off" and repeatedly saying "Are we there yet?", in essence, being obnoxious. In the end I thought to myself that speaking to the father would do nothing more than aggravate the situation and continued trying to block it out....Life as it is, eh? ;p

P.S. Saw someone in full touring rig the other day get on a train at Carlisle and get off at Dalston, could it have been you (I admit, I was a little confused as to why said person didn't just cycle to Dalston considering it's only about 8km from Carlisle) ?

 

[mcshroom]

Yeah but it is (a bit) uphill

I told a kid (about 7) to pick up the litter he was throwing around on a train in the past and been accused of being a paedophile, it's amazing how obnoxious some parents are if you dare to question the behaviour of their 'little angels'.

What route did you take Cush btw? That's the bit of my round Cumbria tour I haven't worked out yet without riding the scarily hidden-dip ridden section of the A595 round Black Combe or climbing over the fell roads.

 

[XmisterIS]

I understand the frustration of....annoying children on the train, while I'm not particularly a grumpy old man just yet, I can see it being an inevitability - We were returning on the train from a weekend in Manchester and on the way 2 loud mouthed children with their father were sitting a couple of seats in front, at first they we separated so they were shouting across the aisle to each other, eventually they sat together and it was calm for a while, then it all started again, but this time the father was just as bad telling his children to "F**k off" and repeatedly saying "Are we there yet?", in essence, being obnoxious. In the end I thought to myself that speaking to the father would do nothing more than aggravate the situation and continued trying to block it out....Life as it is, eh? ;p

P.S. Saw someone in full touring rig the other day get on a train at Carlisle and get off at Dalston, could it have been you (I admit, I was a little confused as to why said person didn't just cycle to Dalston considering it's only about 8km from Carlisle) ?

That's the cycling equivalent of the "ladies who lunch" - turn up to the gym in designer everything: headband, sweatbands, this season's Posh Spice tracksuit in Minging Pink, £100 training shoes, full makeup - they do 10 mins on the treadmill at walking speed and then go and drink lattes and make vacuous conversation ...

 

[The Dwaff Family]

I am a mum of 3, but couldn't stand that myself and have piped up and said things occasionally!! I would be more inclined to say it to the parent which I very vocally did at hospital one time, the poor nurses did not know where to put their faces

If a parent is failing to do something about it, I will then say it to the kids if they are doing something wrong/dangerous and would not hesitate to do so again in future.

I also do many, many train journeys with all 3 in to Euston, mine are sadly the only one's I ever see with a book and not a ds or simliar .

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

Where is there a decent plague when you need one, eh?


This sort of thing just makes me so mad!

 

[skudupnorth]

Parents should keep their kids in check ! If my herd were playing up like that then they would be told straight away,it's not fair on other people to have bad behaved children (or adults) ruin there day !
Did the thought of launching them from the train while it's moving not come into your mind ???

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

Did the thought of launching them from the train while it's moving not come into your mind ???

Oh come now, this will be a sprinter, no wonderful Droplights here you know

 

[Cush]

Early reply before I dash up the M6 (in a car) Segi I know Dalston well and often cycle or walk that way but I have never used a train toget off at Dalston.
I was mainly on the A595 but took a couple of diversions and one of them was down past the Eskmeal ranges. I was tempted to go on the side roads in the Black Comb area (one of my favorite walks) I was also tempted to go into Millom but time was not on my side. I have to say this was a great rout with a lot of variety and I will be doing a shorter version in the winter.
The reason I did not move carriges was that I wanted to stop near the bike. As an after thought, it has been said that when annoyed I do speak in a deep voice with a strong Geordie accent and I wonder if the parents were more scared of me than the child.