Buying a car help

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The Brewer

Shed Dweller
Location
Wrexham
I just want something like a used Vauxhall Meriva/ Citreon C3, but all the car sales people just come across as shifty :sad:
I've a clap out Zafira that I want to part ex and about £5-6000 to spend. Think I'll pop down to Chester after work tomorrow, just wanted to know if anyone had any tips to deal with all the bullshit.

Sean :smile:
 

The Jogger

Legendary Member
Location
Spain
Vauxhall? Really.......why don't you go for a vw or skoda with fsh. Just ignore the crap the salesman comes out with and get him to ansswer your questions direct. Then offer well below the asking so you can meet somewhere in the middle.
 

Cletus Van Damme

Previously known as Cheesney Hawks
If it's a diesel I agree with what The Jogger is saying. If it's a petrol maybe a Ford Focus (puts on flame suit) or another Ford. I have a nearly 11 year old petrol Focus and it is a brilliant car for what it is. I would of bought Japanese years ago, but they are not the same anymore. My mother had a Corsa 09 reg petrol auto with a very low mileage and it was a total POS, traded it in for a Hyundai. Maybe you should look at Hyundai or a Kia also.
 

gbb

Squire
Location
Peterborough
Just my thoughts...
Had a 57 plate Focus...hated every minute of owning it. Just mu opinion, heavy on fuel, noisy engine, we all have different needs and expectations. The Focus didn't meet mine.

Vauxhalls ? I always liked mine,

My FIL had a Citroen C4 for three or four years from new, never missed a beat AFAIK, just traded it for a C3. TBF the engine sounds a bit raucous on the C3, 1.2 engine I think. But, he loves his Citroens.
 

Kies

Guest
5-6k is decent money on the used market .... I would buy quality but older.

VW golf or Passat
Toyota
Honda
Even BMW and merc's (they are no longer expensive to maintain)
 

brucers

Guru
Location
Scunthorpe
Come up wth a short list then check out reviews etc online. When viewing use your common sense - does everything work as should, do paperwork details match/consistent with other paperwork and car itself etc.
 

bof

Senior member. Oi! Less of the senior please
Location
The world
Been very happy with a Honda Jazz (had it four years now, ex-showroom). Bit sluggish to accelerate (its the 1.2L) and rather hard ride are the only down points. Big plus is it is roomy enough to take 2 adult-sized teenagers a long way in the back and put a bike in without removing a wheel ( removing is a PITA on my bike with a hub dynamo). Its economic and very reliable if you get a spare tyre and dont depend on the useless puncture kit.
 

Cletus Van Damme

Previously known as Cheesney Hawks
Just my thoughts...
Had a 57 plate Focus...hated every minute of owning it. Just mu opinion, heavy on fuel, noisy engine, we all have different needs and expectations. The Focus didn't meet mine.

I can understand that mine is a 2002 Mk 1, 1.6 petrol auto and it is not great on fuel, the very best it will do is 30 mpg. I guess an automatic does not help at all. I was given the car by my mother and it had a low mileage for the year. I was skeptical about owning a Ford as I have always driven 90's Jap cars which were superb to be honest, and I thought the majority of 80's early 90's Fords were crap in comparison to the 80's early 90's Vauxhall's I used to own. I can forgive its crap fuel consumption as I got it given and do not do a lot of miles, the £250 a year for VED pisses me off too, but again because I got the car free I cannot grumble. Other than that though the car is quiet, nippy for what it is, handles superbly and has virtually no rust and is coming up to 11 years old. The amount of even older Mk 1 Focus' on the road around here makes me think that they are probably a pretty good car, I see very few Astra's similar age.

I expected later models Focus' would be better but I have not driven one. The thing that later Ford's appear to be good to me for is handling, driver involvment.

From what I have read common rail diesel cars are much more expensive to repair if they do go wrong than petrol cars. Which is why in my situation, doing not a great deal of miles I would be looking at a fairly economical petrol car (plus diesel more expensive at the pumps) when I replace mine.
 

Archie_tect

De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
Location
Northumberland
Reiver,
If you ever get anything serious/ electronic, try Merc Solutions in Cramlington, a one man band and he's really good. We run an '06' C350 in the office and he's looked after it since the warranty ran out.
 
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The Brewer

The Brewer

Shed Dweller
Location
Wrexham
Cheeky day off so been out in the rain looking....car salesmen don't like getting wet I found and didn't get harassed much ;)

Chester was a much better place to look than around here in Wrexham and I got lots of pics on my phone to go through with Mrs B before we both go in the next few days.
Honda Jazz, Renualts, Yaris, C3 and a couple of Volkswagen to mull over.....I do like the toys and the panoramic windscreen in the c3 was cool :smile:
Thanks for the help and advice :thumbsup:
 

matthat

Über Member
Location
South Liverpool
I personally go Ford but that because i live ten mins away from Halewood factory and there is a really good ford breakers yard round the back and I always pay less than a grand!! But with your sort of available money i would consider Skoda!! A good friend of mine who is a petrolhead at heart got rid of his merc coupe and got a Skoda Octavia sport model! Raved about it for the 3 yrs he had it!!!
Good luck though as its nightmare paying off practicality vs insurance costs and everything else!!
 

gbb

Squire
Location
Peterborough
I can understand that mine is a 2002 Mk 1, 1.6 petrol auto and it is not great on fuel, the very best it will do is 30 mpg. I guess an automatic does not help at all. I was given the car by my mother and it had a low mileage for the year. I was skeptical about owning a Ford as I have always driven 90's Jap cars which were superb to be honest, and I thought the majority of 80's early 90's Fords were crap in comparison to the 80's early 90's Vauxhall's I used to own. I can forgive its crap fuel consumption as I got it given and do not do a lot of miles, the £250 a year for VED ****es me off too, but again because I got the car free I cannot grumble. Other than that though the car is quiet, nippy for what it is, handles superbly and has virtually no rust and is coming up to 11 years old. The amount of even older Mk 1 Focus' on the road around here makes me think that they are probably a pretty good car, I see very few Astra's similar age.

I expected later models Focus' would be better but I have not driven one. The thing that later Ford's appear to be good to me for is handling, driver involvment.

From what I have read common rail diesel cars are much more expensive to repair if they do go wrong than petrol cars. Which is why in my situation, doing not a great deal of miles I would be looking at a fairly economical petrol car (plus diesel more expensive at the pumps) when I replace mine.


Its a strange thing...you mention 'driver involvement'..and you're absolutely right, they are keen, responsive, every twitch of the steering wheel feels purposeful. All of that should be a good thing, and is...BUT, i don't like that in a car, i like to relax, lean back and have a much more chilled style of driving. Vauxhalls always were relaxed to drive, due to their American heritage i assume.

True as well about older Astras Vs Focus. Now you mention it, there are loads of older Focus, not so many Astras. That must tell us something :whistle:

My Focus 1.6 petrol, , 57 plate would struggle to do 45 mpg when i drove like a saint, ridiculously carefully. I always felt like you had to be 'alert or switched on' when driving it, i just never relaxed in it. TBF, it was a fairly base model, but had loads of bootspace. Bike could go in complete, that was a bonus as well. Engine felt unrefined, raucous, but responsive if you gave it welly, but equally it was doubly heavy on fuel if you did.

Astra 1.6 SRI, petrol, 2010, easily do 45 mpg, currently doing 51 mpg with care, comfortable, quiet, relaxed, more refined (TBF it is a better spec than the Focus), but the boot is pokey.

Horses for courses i guess...
 
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