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Saluki

World class procrastinator
I take it that you never get to own the car?

Boss's GF leased a Smart for 3 years. She had a mileage restriction of 21,000 miles over the 3 years. Anything over was charged at 37p per mile. The car had to be spotless, inside and out. She would be charged for any scratches etc on the car.

She did drive it. It went back last week as her 3 years were up. She did about 10,000 miles in those 3 years as she was worried about driving it due to the clauses in the lease contract and worried more about parking it in supermarket or gym car parks. People will drive into cars and then just leave the damage behind them.

She's been and bought a Toyota Aygo, outright, instead and is much happier already.
 

Milkfloat

An Peanut
Location
Midlands
Te general rule of thumb is that if you want a brand new car every couple of years then leasing is the way to go. if you just want cheap motoring then purchase secondhand. Leasing is just like long time hire. Lastly - Lings is usually not the cheapest.
 

Archie_tect

De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
Location
Northumberland
Be careful AC, the price they show isn't the price you pay... depends on servicing arrangement, VED included, click charge for miles over the contract mileage you sign up for + VAT on everything. Work out how many miles you will realistically do over the contract period, and base the contract charge on that, ie 8000, 10000, 12000 etc miles a year. Sometimes the rate doesn't increase much to go up a level but if you go over the total mileage agreed they charge you per mile +VAT on the excess. You have to get comprehensive insurance and I'd recommend GAP insurance too as this recovers the remaining cost of the rental payments you'd still owe as a settlement if the car is written off in an accident or stolen [only about £100 for the 3 years hire so worth it]

If it is a personal contract hire they usually charge a higher deposit up front.
If it is a business hire you can get half the VAT back on the contract hire charge- make sure when you get quotes that they give you the monthly total charge and the contract hire period, ie 3+33 [3 month's payments as deposit and then 33 monthly payments] or 3+35 for 3 years hire, or 3+21 or 3+23 for two years hire.

The car is always theirs so check the car before you take it away from them, and they do a very thorough inspection at the end so any chips or damage externally or internally will be charged to repair at exorbitant rates so get anything done before you hand it back and force them to do the inspection with you at time of collection.

For best deals go into the garage dealerships and haggle.... don't pick any specific models just ask for their best contract price on their special offers that month and see what they have... the more expensive models are sometimes the cheapest to hire as they do more contracts on them for business hires.... eg VW Golf R type was £80/month cheaper than SE model in April. VW Passats are often cheaper than Golfs etc. The only things to then check are insurance and running costs!

So, the two things that count are:
1. shop around each dealership and ask for their contract hire person NEVER the showroom sales people [ie go in during the week to sort out the financing not at weekends], and,
2. only ask for the total monthly payment [3+33 or 3+21] including VAT, never ask the value of the car or model, and then work out the total hire charge over the period [and for peace of mind compare the total costs against the costs for the purchase price on interest free with a deposit offset with the second hand value.

Having said all of that I've had 1 Citroen Xantia Estate, one Volvo Estate and 4 Passat Estates on Contract Hire [claiming half the VAT back] with maintenance on 3x33 periods reducing from 15000 a year down to 12000 a year on this one. The only people I wouldn't use again were Volvo Finance, as they were only interested in fleecing people!
 
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My eyes!
That is the most horrid website ever. Could not ever bare to look at it.

I think there is a huge fault in your thinking.
Option a seems to be buy a cheap runabout that is perhaps not up to the job.
Option two seems to be to get a brand new car!.

You seem to have skipped from one end of the range to the other and missed out the middle.

Now the new car loses half its value over 3 years. If you lease or buy you still somehow cover this depreciation. There are lots of deals where you lease or get a car for 3 years at about £140 per month. But that is still £5000 over 3 years.
Old £600 cars may be OK but they will be less reliable and risky re big bills for repairs or the MOT.

Between the two extremes, you can get a decent car for £3000-£5000, keep it 3 years and it only have dropped in value by £1000 to £2000 over that time. That is the surely the best value route to a reasonable reliable car. You can also get something of a decent quality make that will last well and hold its value. VW Golf stands out well. Get a 2009 VW polo in that price range and they only drop about £500 per year in value.
 

Levo-Lon

Guru
As others have said..its ok for business but no good if your not vat registered..

id get a cheap 2 yr old car with a low intrest personal loan..ie 5k over 60mth at around 90+ pcm
or 150 ish over 36 etc..

kia do small cars with 7yr waranty and 0% finance ..how good is that..
 
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Deleted member 35268

Guest
The lings car website is SHOCKING!!!!

It gives me not trust whatsoever, its cluttered, messy, amateurish. If I am potentially spending £10,000 to lease a car over 4 years, I'd expect the website to look professional.

Its a joke.
 
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Deleted member 35268

Guest
OK, Had a read through ( I goto econsultancy from time to time), and went through the comments too.

Personally, the site does not appeal to me, as a punter. That's 'potentially a lost sale. I would have to convince my wife too, and she would definitely not get the irony.

One of the commentators has quite rightly pointed out, there is a middle ground, and although Ling is bringing in the business, there are missed opportunities.

I have to say though, as a web+designer with over 20 years experience, it certainly is a ballsy approach and for that it gets a massive thumbs up. Actually, having thought it over, I hate it.
 
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MarkF

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
I bought a V reg 1.2 petrol Clio for peanuts and I never worry where it's parked, if someone dings into it and wether the inside gets oil on it :smile:

Shaun

Agree, 18 months ago I bought a mint 2002 Focus, FSH 1 owner & 80k miles for £800, it's cost me nothing in repairs and I don't care what happens to it. I'd trust it to drive around the world. I wouldn't want the worry of leasing, IMO the low "get it" costs are only the starting point for money to be squeezed out of you......somehow.

BTW Mrs F broke the side mirror hitting our dustbin a month ago, it was fixed for £3, OE part too. Last week I wrecked the same whole side mirror assembly, £8.40 spent on Ebay has that sorted too.
 

Levo-Lon

Guru
I got my mate a fsh pug 308 for 950 quid it does 80 miles a day and has done for a year..tyres and an oil change,and a new stat in winter...bout 160k on it now
 

Archie_tect

De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
Location
Northumberland
my business bank manager is a canny bloke and he recommended to his son to get a 3 year deal on a Seat, Seat then offered his son a better deal on a new Seat to replace his car after 2 years on a lower monthly rate.

If you replace your car every 2 or 3 years then the costs work out better on personal hire rates providing you are happy to go for the car that is on special offer at that moment not a specific model that you ask for.

If you prefer to buy a good 2 or 3 year old car and keep it for a few years then hiring is not for you.
 
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