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jonny jeez

Legendary Member
Caused by pot hole under the bridge at waterloo.

Anyone ever made a claim against the DOT for this type of thing, the rim will cost a fair amount to replace. I've heard of motorists making claims for split rims...but not cyclists.

on a side note, now that I want need to replace these, should I consider a more expensive, deeper rim to cope with the crapier bits of london roads?

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Cycling Dan

Cycle Crazy
Where there is blame there is a claim. Im think you can use CTC and BC lawyers for such things. You would just take the same path as a car driver would in this situation. Type of transport does not make a difference. If everyone claimed for damage they may fix the potholes.
If any claim is made I would think it would be like for like.
From BC
Some cases involve incidents that have occurred along a highway, as a result of a bicycle wheel hitting a pothole or other defect in the road. In these cases there is clearly no Third Party involved, and there are unlikely to be independent witnesses to the incident itself. The Highways Act 1980 imposes upon a Highway Authority a duty to maintain a public highway. The fact that an incident has occurred owing to the poor condition of the highway might, at first glance, be thought to be sufficient evidence to prove that the Local Authority were negligent for failing to maintain the highway in a good condition.
However, it is very important to be aware that the Courts have been careful to qualify liability to prevent Local Authorities from effectively being the insurer of all highways users who suffer incidents from minor defects.
In fact, a statutory defence is available to a Highway Authority if it can be proved that the authority has taken all reasonable steps to maintain the highway to the standard necessary to accommodate the ordinary traffic that passes along it. Photographic evidence of the defect is crucial, as it is common for defects to be repaired
once an incident has been reported, leaving no evidence of the defect should liability be disputed by the Local Authority. In addition, where possible, measurements of the pothole or defect in the highway should be obtained and an exact description of the location of the defect provided.
 

Jezston

Über Member
Location
London
Not sure that 'more expensive, deeper' means stronger - could mean quite the opposite!

If you want something REALLY strong look at rims that are designed for trick riding, like Velocity Chukkers. Not exactly fast and lightweight though!
 
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jonny jeez

jonny jeez

Legendary Member
I went for a set of mavic open pro rims, with hope cartridge hubs (fairly quiet) and as i never serviced the cone hubs that i did have i suspect a "throw awa"y cartridge system will give them more life expectancy. for extra strength i went for doublebutted double nippled spokes.
swapped the block and the brakes actually aligned perfectly so i just gave them a lttle tighten and centreing.

Hopefully they'll last pretty well compared to the mavic cpx22 thingy's that she came with

Treated her to new bar tape too...
 

goody

Veteran
Location
Carshalton
Shimano whr-501 seem to stand up to some abuse (I'm a london rider as well) and at about £90 a pair are good value.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Ah, chief cut and paste has arrived.

Put it down to experience. Really not worth the hassle trying to persue this. Had rims knackered myself wih pot holes.

Some open pro or CXP 33 are in order.
 

downfader

extimus uero philosophus
Location
'ampsheeeer
I busted a rim this week too. Also a pothole. Although mine only did about 1500 miles on the Open Pro the rim bust out sideways (usually means rim wear, but I dont see how due to how little I'd ridden on this bike!) as I turned a corner and hit a new rut. The roads around here have been getting pretty rough of late, the cycle tracks I use have been destroyed completely and the council refuses to deal with it.

I'm hoping to get some new wheels made up (also for another bike) out of Mavic a119's for the Jake, and a719's for the posher bike.
 

Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge
The law only allows you to be put in the same position you were prior to the act/circumstances that caused the injury/damage you suffered. So buying a stronger/smarter/better pair of rims than you had previously would be down to you. I would get the damage repaired or replaced as in your case then send the council/local authority the bill stating why you think they were at fault ie they were negligent to allow the road to fall into such a poor state of repair. Take pics of offending pothole with measurements and damage to your bike. Request their maintenance schedule for this stretch of road, who maintained it prior to this, if it had been checked recently then suggest the job was not done properly ie a tick box approach. A solicitor is not going to be interested in this as this is a Small Claims Court claim as it is less than £5k. You cannot recover costs that a solicitor would charge for preparing your case and representing you which could be be several hundred poonds, only mimimal expensives such as travel and limited loss of earnings can be awarded.

Report on fillthathole website.

Next time pay more attention and look where you are riding ;) .

HTH.

Ps Looking at the damage to your wheel rim, it looks more like the rim has failed do to over tight spoke, not pot hole damage as rims tend to cave in if going into a pothole as I experienced pot hole damage to wheels twice over the years.
 
I'd put it down to experience. Bicycle parts fail over time and with use.

Many of us have damaged car, bicycle and motorcycle wheels in accidents; on poor surfaces and by casual kerbing and scuffing.

Sometimes it is expensive. If I were riding in central London today, I'd do it on cheap wheels.
 

GrasB

Veteran
Location
Nr Cambridge
Ps Looking at the damage to your wheel rim, it looks more like the rim has failed do to over tight spoke, not pot hole damage as rims tend to cave in if going into a pothole as I experienced pot hole damage to wheels twice over the years.
If the rim doesn't split but deviates a lot over a small section when it recoils it'll overshoot by a few mm & this will put massive tension on the spokes, high enough to cause plastic re-forming of the spoke (generally making the spoke longer by thinning in the mid-span) , & pull through like that.
 
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jonny jeez

jonny jeez

Legendary Member
thanks all.

If I did pursue it would only be for a replacement cost of the rim...£40 ish...plus the man hours to re spoke etc, so I guess its a £90-£100 job.

I'll not bother.

Taking her out for a spin tomorrow in the Bank holiday sun to try out the new wheels (and tape)
 
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