Costs of using a mobile in France (warning: dull but hopefully useful)

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andym

Über Member
I've been researching costs of using a mobile in France and I thought I'd share the info I'd found - as this topic has come up here before (or was it on Bike Radar? - anyway...). My main interest was in working out whether I'd be better off getting a SIM from a French operator for making calls within France.

My starting point was this very helpful article on moneysaving expert.

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/phones/cheap-roaming-calls

One of the sites referred to in the article is this one:

http://www.onecompare.com/international-roaming/

which is a very handy tool for comparing costs of phone calls in various countries.

The results for France put 3 at the head of the table with calls in France costing 25p/min. They were followed by a number of specialist SIM card providers and then by Tesco Mobile at 35p/min and by the mainstream phone operators at 38p/min. (NB the ranking would be a little different if your interest is in making and receiving calls to/from the UK).

So how do these compare with the cost of buying a SIM card from a French operator? The answer seems to be 'pretty well' - although I only looked at the charges of the three main French operators (Orange, SFR and Bouygues).

The first thing to note is that the French operators charge for the SIM (Orange 15 euros and the others 9 euros). On top of that the SIM lapses if it isn't topped up within 6 months (8 for Bouygues). Credits are also time-limited - generally the more you pay the longer the credit lasts, but 6 months seems to be the maximum.

Call charges:

- Orange have two tariffs. One charges 0.55 euros/min at any time, and the other charges 65 cents during the day and 35 cents after 9pm and at weekend. Either way you could end up paying more than on a UK SIM. Even if you are with a mainstream UK operator the savings from getting an Orange SIM are not likely to be worth the faff.

- SFR also have two tariffs: one charges 55 cents /min and the other 65 cents during the day and 35 cents after 10pm (yes 10pm!) and at weekends. So again pas la peine. If you want to find out more see the attachment FIS-260208 etc.

- The Bouygues tariffs are really complicated. The rate per minute varies with the amount of credit you put on the card, and you can also double your time if you're prepared to listen to a short advert before being put through, or you're prepared to accept a shorter period of validity for the credit. Charges range from 50 cents/min to 5 cents a minute. This last tariff is the one with the adverts and you have to put 60 euros on the card. This is the only one that looks like it might save money. If you want to find out more Isee the pdf file BT7680 etc.

As I've said, there may well be operators I don't know about - I know there are some who live in France and they may be able to fill in the gaps, but it looks to me as if most people would be better of either getting a SIM from 3 or Tesco Mobile - or a Travel SIM from a company like SIM4Travel. Or if you don't use the phone much, sticking with your present operator.
 

tapan

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I maintain an Payasugo O2 mobile which sits and festers for most of its life. It is an emergency phone and travels on my velo for 98% of its life.

But when I tour in Europe I add on a Euro Bolt on and on my 6 week tours send a text every other day or so to let my 2 sons know that I am still alive and making progress. I have used it for a phone call to UK about 3 times in 5 years and people wishing to contact me use texting as do I. A phone call to me costs me money so is not encouraged. As usual the mobile is "off" for most of its day -- with a quick check on an eveing to see if I have any important texts ( which is disappearingly rare)

Having been a communications system design engineer in my long distant working past and spent my life in telephonice systems I do tend to have an abhorence for this current need to be in perpetual conversation with everybody!

When I am out of the house I don't want to be contacted by phone. When I am on tour I still have no need to talk to people on a mobile when I can talk to people for real on the road.

I confess that I am continually amazed when I am speeding round tesco's (et al) when I see shoppers with a mobile glued to their ears -- presumeably asking about which sliced loaf of bread to buy!
 

yello

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That looks to me to be a pretty fair summary andym. In as far as I know about such things anyway.

Those are the big 3 French operators... I actually can't think of another off the top of my head. There are other companies offering access but the backbone is often one of other or the big 3 anyway.

Credit lapsing on PAYG is an area of complaint (especially amongst ex-pats!), and I hope it won't be long before France falls into line with the UK on that one. I personally use one of the big supermarket PAYG, SIM only offers - Leclerc. They charge you a flat €1.50 a month and credit lasts 12 months. Calls charges aren't the cheapest but it suits me because I rarely use a mobile and it's more-or-less an emergency only option. I'm basically giving them the €1.50 a month fee just in case I need a mobile! International calls are a hefty €1.20pm (£1.07!) - suffice to say, I don't call overseas on it!!

I'd be inclined to agree with your conclusion too....

most people would be better of either getting a SIM from 3 or Tesco Mobile - or a Travel SIM from a company like SIM4Travel. Or if you don't use the phone much, sticking with your present operator.

Especially that last sentence. If your mobile is going to be emergency only use then just stick with your UK provider (make sure roaming is enabled though!!).

Oh, and keep in mind coverage can be pretty ropey in rural France!
 

zimzum42

Legendary Member
If you have Vodafone you can get something called 'Passport'. You pay a 75p connexion charge for the first minute and then it uses your free minutes subsequently.

On my travels I often find it's best to have two phones. Buy a local SIM for receiving and use the UK for outgoing when in countries where that works out cheaper, and often it does......
 

RussellEngland

New Member
Just as an aside, but you could use a wifi phone, or a mobile with wifi.

I think you can use Skype at any FON hotspot - I used to use Skype many years ago but wasn't a big fan.
http://maps.fon.com/


Or a great alternative to Skype is SIP ("Session Initiation Protocol") - and "borrow" a wireless connection :rolleyes:

Most of the new Nokia mobiles have the option to set up a SIP connection
http://www.forum.nokia.com/Resource...Framework/VoIP_support_in_Nokia_devices.xhtml

Or see if you can install Fring on your mobile - it supports SIP and Skype.
http://www.fring.com/

Both SIP and Skype have the option of a local UK phone number and packages for unlimited calls to landlines.

Skype is a proprietary protocol and is only available from Skype. SIP is an open protocol so there are a lot of companies providing the service, so shop around for the best deal.

I use Tescos, which is basically SIP. The worldwide package costs just under £6 per month, with a Bewdley phone number, unlimited calls to landlines and calls to UK mobiles are 10p per minute. And it can be installed on Nokia phones
http://www.tescointernetphone.com/talkwifi/how
 

yello

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And finding a hotspot, or open network, in France is a met-area thing only! If you thought mobile coverage was limited, try finding an internet cafe!! (Though McDonalds have free wi-fi.... apparently! ;))

I am (or was now) a bit of a gadget freak. We have wireless voip at home and the idea of a voip enabled mobile does appeal... but here in rural France I couldn't use it EXCEPT at home! Kind of defeats the purpose of having it on a mobile really!!
 
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andym

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yello said:
I personally use one of the big supermarket PAYG, SIM only offers - Leclerc. They charge you a flat €1.50 a month and credit lasts 12 months. Calls charges aren't the cheapest but it suits me because I rarely use a mobile and it's more-or-less an emergency only option. I'm basically giving them the €1.50 a month fee just in case I need a mobile! International calls are a hefty €1.20pm (£1.07!) - suffice to say, I don't call overseas on it!!

Yello thanks I was wondering if someone like Eddie Leclerc would have a good deal to offer. Tariffs are here. Call costs are 39 cents for the first 150minutes each month falling to 10 cents a minute after that. So probably not much interest to most of us.

Russell, good point: I thought about mentioning using VOIP. An increasing number of campsites and gîtes are offering free WiFi (and of course there's good old "McDo's" in the main towns). It's a good option for long calls home. My main interest is in making calls ahead to gîtes to reserve a place (it's not joke to find that the only place to stay for miles is full) so I don't want to be relying on WiFi access. But yes, it's good to have the option.

zimzum42 said:
On my travels I often find it's best to have two phones. Buy a local SIM for receiving and use the UK for outgoing when in countries where that works out cheaper, and often it does......

But not in France - hence my post.
 

RussellEngland

New Member
AndyM - Good point about phoning ahead :blush:

MacD's and also Wetherspoons in England... Although it seems rude not to have a pint ;)

On the mobile front - Fring has an application called WeFi which is building a database of hotspots. It works by registering local wifi when using the software. Although of coure it does depend on people using the service. So is going to take a while to be useful.
http://www.wefi.com/
 

zimzum42

Legendary Member
andym said:
But not in France - hence my post.
Fair Enuff!

Only been in France for one night in my life, didn't even use the phone!
 
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