Cycle exclusion zones

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Cycling in to work, I had one of my moments of inspiration! ;)

Most of us on here know that there is some very poorly designed cycling infrastructure. You know the type, gutter lanes, lanes that encourage you to filter up the left on approach to junctions (possibly past left turning lorries) etc.

This morning as I cycled past some hatching at the side of the road (telling cars to avoid the end of disabled parking bays) I realised that hatching could be the solution. So how about this.

Where the poor cycle lanes are just now, place yellow hatching (or another colour to indicate a new use). This hatching would become a no cycling zone, i.e. it would extend out to what is considered the secondary road position. At the start of each hatching area and at intervals within, there would be signs showing no cycling (bike with red cross through it). In the road to the right of these hatched areas, you would occasionally have a bike sign on the road, i.e. indicating that drivers should expect cyclists here, outside the hatching.

Of course in normal and good condition you should be able to cycle close to the hatching, but you could come out further where necessary.

These markings would indicate good cycling practice and highlight to drivers that cyclists should not be at the side of the road and to expect them further out. This would be particularly useful in roads where there are parked cars, i.e. hatching in the door zones.

Councils would like it, because they could still tick the boxes that said they were producing cycling infrastructure.

Discuss! ;)
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
What is 'Hatching'
'scuse my ignorance
 

CotterPin

Senior Member
Location
London
Near me there is a tight corner out of a roundabout on a main road. It used to have a short stretch of cycle lane right on the corner just where cyclists were likely to get caught. Eventually, after some local campaigning, Transport for London (for it is one of their roads) removed the cycle lane and replaced it with some hatching and a cycle sign outside the hatching indicating this is where cyclists should place themselves.

If they hadn't done it themselves, that would have been an ideal opportunity for your scheme, Magnatom.
 

HJ

Cycling in Scotland
Location
Auld Reekie
One of the problems currently is that many road users don't understand the function of the road marking that are already there. Magnatom's scheme could work, but only if it was rolled out across the whole country and was backed up by an education programme for all road users.
 

col

Legendary Member
There is something similar on a slip round off a roundabout here, but the markings are faded now, all the cars going over them has nearly scrubbed them out.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
Think how much it costs the local council to paint lines on roads.

They will only do something if 1/ someone gets killed, or 2/ it is a newly laid road surface.

To have a properly organised cycling infrastucture, cyclists will be asked to pay some sort of 'tax' to ride on the road.

Best policy is to keep quiet and keep paying £0.00 per year.
 
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magnatom

Guest
Sharky,
All of the signs would be 'on the road', i.e. the no cyclist sign would be within the hatched area and there would be a picture of a bike on the main carriageway indicating that it was a 'cycle lane' (I think EMD has these marking in some of his videos).

Cotterpin,

Does it work though? That sounds very similar to what I am thinking, but we need it nationwide. Surely if the majority of road safety expert agree that the secondary position is a minimum distance from the kerb, but that there are times when a more prominent position is required, then this type of marking conveys this, significantly better than the current markings?

HJ,

I agree that there would need to be education. However, if some thought was put into the design of the symbols then it is possible to make markings obvious. Most people realise that hashed markings mean they shouldn't be there, you just have to connect that simply with cycling, whilst making it obvious that the cyclist will be further out.

Jimboalee,

It's surprising how much money is available for 'cycling infrastructure'. I'm suggesting as new lanes are painted or renewed (To tick council boxes) they could use these marking instead of the current rubbish.
 
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