Cycling does impact on the environment...

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beatlejuice

Gently does it...
Location
Mid Hampshire
In this weeks Hampshire Chronicle the following letter appeared:

SIR—Whilst crawling in another eight-car queue behind a cyclist a few days ago on the notorious Hursley Road stretch leading off the Romsey Road, I was reminded of my contribution a few years ago to an office blog on cycling.
Assuming every car had to slow down from 40mph to a generous 20mph— and at the end speed up again—they all use extra fuel, the volume of which can be estimated based on average vehicle weight and, the energy contained in a litre of fuel
However, just calculating the volume does not immediately give a feel for the environmental impact of the lone cyclist. Another way of looking at this issue is to consider a cyclist undertaking a one-mile commute to work and during this trip holds up, say, about 10 cars. In this case, the equivalent mpg caused by the cyclist is around 40mpg.
The big difference is that the cost falls on the hapless motorists, while the cyclist feeling self-satisfied about his green credentials, but blithely unaware of his reflected greenhouse gas emissions.
You can argue the figure sup or down, but the impact is certainly not zero, and, if a couple of 44 tonne, 60mph trucks are similarly delayed, this notional bicycle fuel consumption falls right down to less than 3mpg!
This is not just an opinion, theory, or anti-cyclist rant that routinely graces the Chronicle letters page, but simply a calculation. It shows that even the most apparently green mode of transport has an environmental impact
I'm fully in favour of responsible , cyclists and even more of an
expansion of off-road cycle/footpaths. A good start would be to get some permitted paths along the Romsey Road, above the notorious section of the Hursley Road.

Dr Robin Davey,
Beechwood Crescent, Chandler's Ford.

So global warming is our fault all a long!
 
But...but..but...global warming doesn't exist!
 

green1

Über Member
You can argue the figure sup or down, but the impact is certainly not zero, and, if a couple of 44 tonne, 60mph trucks are similarly delayed, this notional bicycle fuel consumption falls right down to less than 3mpg!
If your holding up a Lorry you can assume its a single carriage way road and therefore the Lorry should only be doing 40 anyway. [/pedent]
 

jugglingphil

Senior Member
Location
Nottingham
Doesn't quite say that global warming is cyclist's fault, just there is an impact. Everything has an impact, but what level is the important factor.

Dr Robin's article doesn't take into account any other factors for cars slowing and speeding up, the much more common problem of other cars, parked cars, traffic lights, roundabouts, junctions, zebra-crossings, etc

Also I'd suggest that if he's driving a vehicle that uses a litre of fuel to overtake a cyclist, it's time he changed to a more efficient mode of transport because it must be costing him a fortune!
 

gambatte

Middle of the pack...
Location
S Yorks
A disinct smell of cattle?
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'They all use extra fuel'..? He forgets that driving faster is less efficient than driving slower. How many times are we quoted the difference in consumption driving at 60 70 or 80mph
 

BSRU

A Human Being
Location
Swindon
If the drivers in the "huge" 8 car queue where on bicycles then there would be no queue.
Or is he suggesting 20mph limits everywhere:tongue:
 

gavintc

Guru
Location
Southsea
Quite remarkable, particularly as he has studied to PhD level. Pseudo scientific bollocks, which would have been better and more honest if he had just stated; "I hate cyclists".
 
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A long straight road with good sightlines and reasonably good room for overtaking a bicycle within the Highway Code if it wasn't for those damn cars coming the other way :thumbsup:
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Hmm, I pass huge queue's of hundreds of cars every day - I never hold anyone up. Old dodderer - people like this need shooting - waste of good oxygen for us cyclists !

Bet he wears a cloth hat ! :banghead:
 

GrasB

Veteran
Location
Nr Cambridge
'They all use extra fuel'..? He forgets that driving faster is less efficient than driving slower. How many times are we quoted the difference in consumption driving at 60 70 or 80mph
Without going into details or debates about this gearing & apparent engine load also have dramatic effects on fuel usage. For this reason isn't strictly true that traveling at a lower speed is always more fuel efficient & has a lot more factors than just the speed that the vehicle is traveling.
 

green1

Über Member
A disinct smell of cattle?
'They all use extra fuel'..? He forgets that driving faster is less efficient than driving slower. How many times are we quoted the difference in consumption driving at 60 70 or 80mph
Depends on the engine, my car is more fuel efficient at 3000 rpm than it is at 2000.
 

gambatte

Middle of the pack...
Location
S Yorks
Without going into details or debates about this gearing & apparent engine load also have dramatic effects on fuel usage. For this reason isn't strictly true that traveling at a lower speed is always more fuel efficient & has a lot more factors than just the speed that the vehicle is traveling.

Exactly. His blanket statement that it uses more fuel is extremely simplistic. It relies on so many other factors. From the efficiency of the car itself to the efficiency of the driving style. How slow the approaching driver slows, what his rate of acceleration is at the far end. The gearing he chooses to use for all sections of the drive.
 

Mushroomgodmat

Über Member
Location
Norwich
well, I can only speak for myself - but during my commute I only hold up traffic when it itself holds me up and I essentially become part of the traffic queue.

Still, if we all cycled to work his comments/thoughts would be mute. Also, this argument (if true) should also be applied to badly parked cars, pedestrians, crossings, traffic lights, other slow car drivers, buses and bus stops, road works etc...
 
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