Driver scares me half to death!

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I've only recently joined this forum and yesterday marked my 2nd day commuting by bicycle in Glasgow.

To give a little background info, I DO ride my bike a lot in Elie, Fife but I find it safer there as lots of people are on bikes and drivers are wary and pass wide and slow down (I'm normally on a national speed limit country road). I do know how to ride in traffic, so in this situation, I really didn't do anything wrong because I'm a "newbie".

Yesterday I was riding on a particularly busy section in Anniesland, Glasgow. The traffic wasn't overly heavy but cars were mostly going from one traffic light queue to the next. I noticed that a orange punto was trying to overtake me but there's not enough space; there are cars in the outside lane and I'm not hugging the gutter so that's a bit obvious! I'd seen a few vids by magnatom (perhaps same name on here?) on youtube and I've adopted the idea of putting my arm out, palm facing backwards and the car was dissuaded from trying to get past me.

So far so good...

I thought that was it but at the lights she rolled down her window and started screaming at me for stopping her from overtaking. I was quite calm and said "There wasn't enough room, you need to leave about 3 feet to pass". She kept screaming but I decided to leave it be and try to not get this person any more angry, just hoping for the lights to turn soon. The lights go green and I take off - a few seconds later she's right on my back wheel - like 20/30 cm space, I kid you not! She's honking her horn and there's nowhere I can go. I was already pedaling hard for the take off so I was trying to keep that up and thankfully had the presence of mind to NOT hug the gutter as she no doubt would have tried to pass and it was about 99% certainty I'd get hit.

I literally panicked as I was boxed in. There wasn't even the option of jumping onto the pavement as a last resort because the pavement there is fenced off!

Thank god there was a person in the outside lane who slowed down along side this driver and honked his horn. A quick glance around and he was waving his hand for me to move in front of him into the outside lane. As soon as I moved in she took off and then even better - the person behind her stayed back and let me back into the lane!

I then pulled off at the next junction to stop. I kept thinking "What if my foot had slipped on the pedal?" (it was very foggy and damp yesterday) or "What if I'd hit a bump or lost control?".

Those two drivers also pulled off at the junction and stopped behind me to make sure I was okay. Unfortunately in all the drama none of us had a licence plate number, maybe I should invest in a camera! lol

I thought I'd tell this story on here, though, because despite this incident I intend for there to be a 3rd day commuting. And while it may sound daft, the fact that two car drivers not only helped me out but made sure I was okay has instilled a little faith amongst drivers out there. Yeah, one went mad for no reason but those two made up for that a little.

It's crap that it's happened only 2 days into working up the courage to attempt Glasgow traffic but I'll get there!

Oh yeah, and it's worth mentioning that magnatom's advice on youtube (perhaps discussed here) about using an arm out and palm backwards really does work in disuading drivers from close pass overtakes. That being said, this xmas I'm getting a reflective backpack and using a marker I'm going to write "3 feet to pass" on the back :smile:
 
At least there are some good motons to help you out there.:smile:

Motons flipping out seems common place here.

Welcome to the forum btw.
 
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Glad my advise helped a bit (although it wasn't my idea originally).

Glasgow will take a wee while to get used to. There certainly are muppets like that woman about. However, the good thing is that the vast majority are like the drivers that helped you. Good on them!

Also things are improving in Glasgow. When I first started there were hardly any cyclists at all. Most days I wouldn't see any, and as my videos demonstrate I had my fair share of run ins. Now I see at least 5 or 6 each trip. The more cyclists on the road the better it will get, so it's great to have another! I really do have less incidents now as a result (and because I move a little faster! :smile:)

Keep it up, it does get better, and who knows I may see you out there (although I am moving house this week to Torrance, but I'll still be passing through Anniesland).
 
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Little_McKay

Regular
Hey there!

Yeah I work in Anniesland/Partick now and working 70 hours a week. Been 5 weeks (including weekends) since I had a day off and as of Tuesday next week I'm considering switching completely to bike commute- that's 28 miles a day! HA! I'm crazy.

I noticed a lot of good driving on my commute, it's mainly Dumbarton Rd > Anniesland that got a bit sketchy. Bus drivers have been pretty damn good! I travelled along pollokshaws road and they actually overtook completely in the outside lane while I was in the bus/taxi/bike lane! I was kinda surprised to be given that much space to be honest!

So far, I think the key to riding in glasgow - DON'T HUG THE GUTTER!!! I think if you get that drilled into you - you're a bit safer as people actually notice ya!
 
70 hours is a lot! :smile: I complain about my 36!

You'll need to send me details of your route. I might be able to make suggestions for better roads etc.
 

gavintc

Guru
Location
Southsea
Lots of sympathies. To be honest, the really dangerous prats are actually quite few and far between. Having had your share of bad luck in the early days it should get better and if you follow the law of averages, you will probably go a couple of years before coming across someone as bad as that again. On the other hand - if you commute at regular timings on the same road, you might meet her again. I think you handled it well. Personally, if this happens to me, I slow down, stop pedalling, look at them, ask them what the problem is and then cycle quite slowly in the middle of the lane. They usually just move across to the other lane. If they toot more, just point and laugh at them.
 

JiMBR

Senior Member
Location
Glasgow
Welcome to the forum Little_McKay.

As Magnatom says, cycling in this city does take a bit of time to get used to.
The vast majority of drivers are good, you just encounter the occasional muppet.


I live in Partick and I started commuting into the city centre this year.
I was very wary at first, but the more you cycle the more experienced you will get and your confidence will grow over time.

Happy, safe cycling. :smile:
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
Wow, what a tale!!! Although that woman was simply horrible, it's actually rather heartwarming to hear about the other two drivers. Yay for them!
 

jig-sore

Formerly the anorak
Location
Rugby
i always take the time to thank drivers who are courteous with a cheery wave

i will also wave anyone past who is keeping back for me when "i" feel it is safe for them to overtake

a little bit of give and take really does go a long way.

but then there are always the ones who just don't care :evil:
 
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