effing Masterchef!

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ASC1951

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Yorkshire
Arch said:
The telly is company to some extent, sad maybe, but there it is.
Friday night is always drivel night, though. I would have gone out to the cinema but that was even more dire.

What annoys me most about Masterchef is the ridiculous poncified food. I don't expect fish and chips, but the stuff is to eat, not to stare at.

"It might look like gravy to you, Sir, but this is actually a balsamic jus reduction." In that case, tip it down the sink and bring me Keith Floyd.
 

Rhythm Thief

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Ross on Wye
My telly gets switched off at the end of the F1 season, then back on again for the first race. That's all I use it for. I have no idea what or who "MasterChef" is. :biggrin:
 

mangaman

Guest
You should check it out RT.

Instead of a bunch of faceless / charactereless people driving in a circle, you get to see real people doing useful things - ie cooking food :biggrin:
 

mangaman

Guest
Rhythm Thief said:
But I can see that in my own kitchen. No need for a telly at all.:biggrin:

But you can see people driving cars around too - especially in your job

Masterchef will teach to you cook better

Watching F1 won't make you a better driver
 

mangaman

Guest
Rhythm Thief said:
I like watching F1. And I like cooking, but I don't particularly like watching other people cook. Is that difficult to understand?:biggrin:

Actually without trying to be too anal, yes.

I don't watch cookery programmes to watch people cook, but to learn new techniques / ideas / get inspired to try someting different

I do watch F1 regularly (the 1st corner seems to provide all the action plus the pit stops) so I fast forward a fair bit :tongue:

I wouldn't get anything out of it though - it wouldn't improve my racing line next time I tackle Eau Rouge, as that will never happen.
I cook every day and it's great to get tips / inspiration

I drive most days but I can do that (never had any pts in 26 years, never had an accident). So good cookery shows like masterchef combine the exciting competitive element with useful lifestyle advice :biggrin:

I know you'll answer you find F1 more interesting than I do, but can you see my point of a well made competative cookery show?

After all millions of people cook every day. About 20 people or so drive F1 cars
 
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Arch

Arch

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Location
Salford, UK
mangaman said:
So good cookery shows like masterchef combine the exciting competitive element with useful lifestyle advice :biggrin:

There are plenty of cookery shows I like. I used to watch ready Steady Cook obsessively, when Fern Britton presented it. That could get exciting, esp that time Brian Turner was piping cream frantically as the final countdown ran and the bag split and showered Fern with a big blob of it. Bless her, she finished the show with whipped cream stuck to her hair.

And Come Dine with Me is a fantastic window on the worlds of some really bonkers people.

I've just gone off shows where people appear to hingeing their whole future lives and worth on winning. If you want to be a chef and it's your whole life's dream, train. You can get shouty men in most professional kitchens I gather.

To be fair, I have absolutely no interest in F1 either.:cry:
 

Debian

New Member
Location
West Midlands
mangaman said:
Actually without trying to be too anal, yes.

I don't watch cookery programmes to watch people cook, but to learn new techniques / ideas / get inspired to try someting different

I do watch F1 regularly (the 1st corner seems to provide all the action plus the pit stops) so I fast forward a fair bit :biggrin:

I wouldn't get anything out of it though - it wouldn't improve my racing line next time I tackle Eau Rouge, as that will never happen.
I cook every day and it's great to get tips / inspiration

I drive most days but I can do that (never had any pts in 26 years, never had an accident). So good cookery shows like masterchef combine the exciting competitive element with useful lifestyle advice :cry:

I know you'll answer you find F1 more interesting than I do, but can you see my point of a well made competative cookery show?

After all millions of people cook every day. About 20 people or so drive F1 cars

+1 to all the above points
 

Rhythm Thief

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Location
Ross on Wye
While I can see the points you're making, I can only repeat that I enjoy watching F1 - and having been involved with it occasionally as a scrutineer, maybe I feel more of an attachment to it than you do - whereas I don't enjoy watching people shout at each other while cooking. I can cook pretty well and learn new techniques from my vast collection of cookbooks; I have no real interest in spending time watching the telly anyway (except F1: it's the only reason I actually have a telly). But I don't really feel the need to justify it to anyone as a rule: I enjoy F1 and that's good enough for me.:biggrin:
 

jamesxyz

New Member
Yeah teh quality of cooking has declined but that's the best bit about it! Watching all these people who think they're good enough to be a Michelin starred chef making a right dog's dinner (literally) of the ingredients - someone the other night cooked some meat (can't remember what) with raspberry sauce!!

It's like all reality TV shows tho' whether it be singing, dancing, cooking or unicycling - the first rounds are the best and funniest. Once it gets into the later rounds the real losers are gone and only peole with talent remain - not nearly as interesting!

Forums don't get tougher than this!:biggrin:
 
I can see I'm going to have to watch this programme, just so as I can convince people I'm not talking through an - er - other orifice here. But I can't see how viewers (i.e. you lot) can get so worked out about food which you can't taste, can't smell, and are never going to get to eat anyway!

Never mind. One of the things I pride myself in, is that I know a little bit about cooking and have some ability to prepare a meal. This doesn't mean I understand all these fancy ('poncy', someone said) dishes splashed over TV celeb-chef offerings. To me, cooking means preparing food, not a dish. And making it something people are going to want to eat, and they're going to be clamouring for second helpings.

And food can be simple. Simple enough to be tasty though it would never get past the heats in Masterchef. Take an artichoke, as a case in point. I love a good artichoke - when one is forthcoming (usually when I'm in France) and I'm in the mood for it. And what could be simpler? Clean it well - cut off the stalk - boil it in lightly salted water until the 'leaves' can be pulled off easily. Meanwhile prepare the simplest of hollandaise, no need to even give it that 'poncy' name, just a bit of melted butter and lemon juice. Serve. To eat, pick off each 'leaf' in turn, dip in sauce, and suck off the fleshy part. When you get to the heart, carefully scrape off the 'choke' and savour the delicious heart doused in what's left of the lemon sauce. Simples!

So what do I get when my wife and I get invited to a business dinner in a fancy hotel situated at the classier end of Crawley (believe me, you have to go a long way out of Crawley to get to its 'classy' end...)? I go for the veggie option, as I so often do, and up comes fonds d'artichauts done up in a sort of cheesy-winey sort of sauce and baked en croute (at least I think that's what the menu said). So: a dollop of mess suggestive of somewhat ropy stilton, in a limp pastry case, with lumps of something vaguely vegetable-ish lurking in it. Not a prayer of artichoke flavour anywhere (if there had been the stilton would have swamped it anyway) - probably because it came from a tin. But that was 'fancy'' food, elaborately garnished and elegantly laid out on the crockery, and seeming to justify the enormous price it commanded (I wasn't paying the bill :sad:). But food I can enjoy - it wasn't.

So how would Masterchef tackle that particular poser: prepare me a good artichoke?
 
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