Elite Sportspersons as role models

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Just saw this shocker;

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/dec/04/tyson-fury-jessica-ennis-hill-sports-personality-bbc
"Fury is also asked about his attitude to female boxers: “I’m all for it. I’m not sexist,” he said. “I believe a woman’s best place is in the kitchen and on her back. That’s my personal belief. Making me a good cup of tea, that’s what I believe.”"

I always wondered why the desire and need to make an elite sportsperson a role model. It seems to be British obsession. Let them earn the right to be a role model by their conduct and the values that they impart. And leave the idiots to their own ends.

Jessica Ennis on the hand earned that right. We should teach our kids to be selective.
 
Boxers should never be role models. They hit each other hard for a living. It's a nasty, dangerous activity. Even the best of them suffer. Look at Muhammad Ali. I hated the way the press celebrated when his daughter starting fighting. The world would be a better place without boxing for men and women. It should certainly not be an olympic sport. If you are risking the sort of injury that comes from boxing, at least you should be well remunerated.

And role model? Tyson's namesake and presumably role model is a convicted rapist, and a horrible person - biting off an ear???

Frankly a little old fashioned sexism is like a breath of fresh air.
 

Fnaar

Smutmaster General
Location
Thumberland
Fair enough, stupid comments, but just maybe he was acting up to the expectations of the interviewer/his own image.
Not defending his comments at all, of course, but...
 
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Arrowfoot

Guest
Who said he was a role model?

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ury-bbc-sports-personality-of-the-year-awards

Tyson Fury should remember he’s a role model when he opens his mouth
Alice Arnold


The controversial boxer is up for the BBC’s Sports Personality of the Year award, but his homophobic views encourage the bullying of vulnerable fans


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‘World heavyweight boxing champion Tyson Fury (left) got in by the skin of his teeth, after beating Wladimir Klitschko on Saturday night.’ Photograph:

The “personality” element of the BBC’s Sports Personality of the Year award has been problematic for some time. Why should we expect our top sports stars to be scintillating company? Perhaps we have to broaden our definition and take it to mean “role model” or “ambassador” or simply “good egg” when we are deciding who to vote for.

However, for the moment the title remains and the nominees were announced last night with a late addition to the list. World heavyweight boxing champion Tyson Fury got in by the skin of his teeth, after beating Wladimir Klitschko on Saturday night. Great timing.

Now, I am the first to admit I am not a boxing fan. I do not deny that it can be a skilful sport – you need to be pretty fit and quick on your feet – I just don’t like the idea of any activity where you aim to knock your opponent unconscious. I appreciate, though, that there are many boxing fans out there, and while it is a legitimate sport its champions have as much right to be on the list of sporting personalities as anyone else. Fury actually has a personality too – quite a strong one. He is outspoken and opinionated – and it’s not attractive.

He recently claimed that the end of days is approaching. He said that the devil will be summoned when paedophilia is legalised, completing the satanic trinity of abortion and homosexuality. He defended his comments by saying that his beliefs are based on his faith and the Bible. If the Bible tells him that something is wrong, then it’s wrong.

Fury is far from alone in believing that homosexuality is wrong on religious grounds, but there are ways to express this through love and understanding. The sadness is that Fury chooses to express his views to an audience that may not contain the most enlightened people and those views get reinforced and accepted.

Fury comes from the travelling community and is proud of the fact, as he should be. For centuries Travellers have been discriminated against and disenfranchised. The Friends Families and Travellers’ website says that Gypsy and Traveller young people are bullied more than any other ethnic minority in England.

Would someone like to explain to Fury that more than half of all lesbian, gay, bisexual young people experience homophobic bullying in Britain’s schools? When a great sporting figure spouts off comparing homosexuality to paedophilia, that figure is not likely to drop. It is talk like this that leads to young people suffering bullying and mental illness and in some cases being driven to suicide.

It matters what our sporting superstars say. They can have a tremendous power to influence the views of young people and to be role models for the future.

There are certainly some positive role models out there. Shortly after Fury was busy bashing Klitschko, Andy Murray won the Davis Cup for Great Britain with an astounding topspin lob. Murray broke the mould by hiring Amélie Mauresmo as his coach in place of Ivan Lendl last year. Many questioned the wisdom of employing a woman, but Murray stood firmly by his decision.

In so doing, he may have opened the way for other top players. He demonstrated that the ability to do the job was more important than gender – and we could do with far more of that in sporting circles.

Murray didn’t sing, à la Fury, to his wife immediately after his victory. Instead he realised that while his teammates were wrestling him on the ground in celebration, he hadn’t yet shaken hands with his opponent, David Goffin. He extricated himself from the mob and went over to Goffin and the whole of the Belgium camp, shaking hands with each and every one of them, before allowing the British celebrations to continue.

The BBC’s Sports Personality of the Year is the highest-profile award in Britain. It is a massive honour to the recipient, and sporting achievement has to be the most important factor, but we can’t ignore the ambassadorial role. If you are in the privileged position of being a sporting hero, then use your voice for good, not to damn a minority of the population. If you don’t like gay people and think we are the devil incarnate, then keep it to yourself unless you want blood on your hands – and not on your boxing gloves. It will be up to us to cast our votes on 20 December. Perhaps this year “personality” really IS important.
 

TVC

Guest
Because a jounalist says it's so doesn't make it real. Outside of boxing clubs no children will care about him, and indide boxing clubs the kids will find some proper mysogyny, homophobia and poor judgement to worry about.
 

Levo-Lon

Guru
Anti boxing thread.....

i heard horse riding ,cars ,bikes ,walking,hollidays kill more people..
i lie down all the time now..its safe but i get walked on which hurts sometimes...

As for sports hero..people like Daly Thompson get my vote
 

tyred

Squire
Location
Ireland
I'm not really a fan of any sports but I always think we should give elite sports people credit for their achievements.
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Vapin' Joe

Formerly known as Smokin Joe
Boxing bores me to tears, but I'd defend anybody's right to do it. It's perfectly legal, it's not compulsory and it's none of anyone else's business if someone wants to take part.

Rather like the Isle of Man TT.
 
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