from the City to Beckton

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Beebo

Firm and Fruity
Location
Hexleybeef
I need to get from the City to New Beckton (just past City Airport) to visit a client tomorrow. I could go by DLR but I would prefer to cycle.

I can't find a route that doesn't require cycling on either the Aspen Way or East India Dock Road (A13). Are these roads cycle friendly, is there as better route.
 

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deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
Take the CS3 Cycle superhighway - from Tower Bridge it follows a route along Cable Street, then just north of Aspen Way and then it follows alongside the A13. It's an easy ride, though it's possible to lose the route as it dog-legs between north of Aspen Way and the A13 bridge over the Lee River - you end up having to go through an old gateway onto a semi-private business area where all the streets are named after spices.
 

Tynan

Veteran
Location
e4
I ride the Mile End Road as far as Stratford most evenings, it's fine, straight and flat and fast, go over the Bow flyover and watch out for people trying to cut acroos you for the exit there
 
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Beebo

Beebo

Firm and Fruity
Location
Hexleybeef
Well i am not very impressed by CS3.

The Cable Street part is shared with pedestrians and you are very close to bikes coming in the opposite direction, a head on crash is just waiting to happen.

Near narrow street it inexplicably changes to a continental path where you cycle on the right with bikes in the opposite direction passing on the left; and further on I got lost so just cycled on A13. (faster but more dangerous)

There were too many confusing give way signs and pedestrian style crossings.

Do people use this everyday to commute or is it just for pootling about? It would be impossible to keep an average commuting speed (say 15-17mph) without being recklessly dangerous to you and other road users.
 
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Beebo

Beebo

Firm and Fruity
Location
Hexleybeef
yep just watched the vid. i got lost where you did. the whole thing just seems to put cyclists in direct conflict with pedestrians.
 
The CycleChat 'Sunday London Massive'. dominated CS3, Cable street, on the 11th July 2010. :smile: The original battle was on a Sunday, too!
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Ooops - forgot the 'evidence'!
 

scouserinlondon

Senior Member
CS3 looks like a fun cycle lane in smaller town, but I think calling it a 'super highway' is a bit of a stretch. How the the hell will it cope with the capacity it's going to get, look at CS7, it's rammed most rush hour periods.
 

Alan Whicker

Senior Member
CS3 ain't too bad in the mornings but it's crazy busy in the evenings. Wouldn't be so bad if the path was wider - overtaking on most of it is pretty hazardous 'cos of oncoming cyclists, so you're sort of compelled to go at the speed of the slowest rider ahead. Having said that, I do enjoy pootling along at an 'Amsterdam' sort of pace. But not all the way home.

Tynan - I've always bottled out of going over the flyover. Can't be less dangerous than the roundabout below, though!
 

Tynan

Veteran
Location
e4
flyover is absolutely fine barringa careful eye on some of the idiots joining from the left when going down heading east, one tends to going at quite a clip

that roubndabout looks bonkers, which remnds me that primary is called for approaching from the west to discourage muppets trying to cut across to the ext there, heaven forbid they should get into lane
 
I've been on the CS3 twice a day most days since 5 January (1 hour from Waterloo to Canary Wharf on the Jubilee line on the 4 put me off using that as a regular commute).

Yup, it's slow. Yup, it's narrow. While the pedestrians mostly respect it, I've seen a mother step onto it with her child without looking. The cyclist was able to dodge around her - no traffic in the other direction - but the woman just laughed as she stepped back. I don't think she realised how serious an accident it would have been for her six year old. The junctions are all different, it's very hard to work out who has priority and the only signage I've noticed for drivers is a lit up "think bike", nothing to tell them if they should give way when turning. Excluding the full intersections with lights, all the other junctions are T-junctions, so surely the "superhighway" should have right of way, but that's only some intersections. Generally the drivers give way at all of them, which is good. Part of the path was out for a time in January (thames water, I think): they didn't close a foot path, or stop parking to create a temporary cycle lane, they just put a "cyclist dismount" sign up, which did nothing but move most cyclists onto the footpath. There's also a contraflow on the wrong side of the road, so it's not unusual for cyclists to go in it the wrong way, and makes the junction confusing (you're doing a left hand turn out of a side street, yet you have to give way to someone doing a right hand turn into it ... or do they give way to you?)

Oh, and the big confession: I didn't use it for a week in March because my attention lapsed briefly and I crossed the centre line and collide with another cyclist. I wonder how often that happens?

Maybe I should be looking at other routes?
 

gaz

Cycle Camera TV
Location
South Croydon
There's also a contraflow on the wrong side of the road, so it's not unusual for cyclists to go in it the wrong way, and makes the junction confusing (you're doing a left hand turn out of a side street, yet you have to give way to someone doing a right hand turn into it ... or do they give way to you?)

Everytime i use that i'm like 'wtf do i do here?'
 
There's also a contraflow on the wrong side of the road, so it's not unusual for cyclists to go in it the wrong way, and makes the junction confusing (you're doing a left hand turn out of a side street, yet you have to give way to someone doing a right hand turn into it ... or do they give way to you?)

This one bit me again yesterday. I was travelling in the main direction of traffic (ie not contraflow) - probably a little too close to the cars on the right as there was no traffic at all, and someone stepped out between the cars. I swerved around him, no real danger but he was startled and so was I.

"You should be in the cycle lane!" "It's for traffic going the otherway." "You should be in the cycle lane!" "It's a contraflow" "You should be in the cycle lane!"

Now, he was wrong, but from his casual reading of the road layout, I was was way out. It's a one way street, with a cycle lane on the left hand side. What was I doing anywhere else on the road?
 
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