have the chain whip from the tourers - they needed an adaptor and a 24mm spanner which fitted over the adaptor to change the sprocket. have allen keys falling our of drawers to their hearts content... so just need a cassette removal tool by the sounds of things (assuming I purchased the right thing for the hub removal that is!) I so much like the design of my tourer where they have manufactured the bike to re-use various tools to do all sorts of jobs! That won't happen before the weekend unless I visit a LBS and pay twice what is necessary but keep them going... and the bike is outside, the snow has started and its going dark... may leave that til tomorrow - will be playing on the mtb not the road bike and its the Triban 3 which has the issue (given the state of the wheel hubs this does not surprise me!) thanks
