had a 'chat' with a 'professional driver'

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kedab

Veteran
Location
nr cambridge
hey CC!

hope all is well and for those in the U.K, i hope your weather predicting skills are nicely honed given what we've experienced in the past couple of weeks :wacko: 'ooh it's sunny, oh dear it's a tropical storm, ooh it's sunny i'll dry out now, oh dear it's a tropical storm i guess i'll stay wet!'

anyway...commuting to work the other week:

i roll up to crossroads and the lights are red. i'm at the front - they turn green and i set off. now i'm aware of the frickin great Asda artic' behind me and i give it a bit of welly to get over the crossroads and down the road a bit sharpish, putting a bit of distance between us. i'm not the quickest but i can easily hit 20 plus mph on this section - Asda man picks up speed and then the inevitable - he leans on his horn as he catches me and looking over my shoulder to see what the fuss is about, i see he's pointing madly at the split pedestrian/cycle path to my left that he demands i use. This would mean slowing at the next junction to bump up on to it.

now, i know there's an argument to say i 'should' use the pedestrian/cycle path as it's there but, do i 'have' to?! i mean, this is a fairly busy road and there's no way the cars behind the artic' could overtake him due to the traffic flow and i'm not slowing him so badly that he absolutely must pass me?!

so, the upshot of this little encounter was that at the next set of lights i filtered past the queuing traffic and Asda man wasn't best pleased as, when he came past me the next time he past intentionally close, he could have given me as much room as he liked on this section but didn't - i could have wiped my nose on his cab he was that close :sad: i caught him at the next set of lights and tapped on his cab - asking him why he passed so close and if he was trying to intimidate me all he had to say about it was that i shouldn't have been on the road...i gave up and made my not so merry way to work.

am i totally wrong here? should i take the cycle/pedestrian path just cos it's there, am i being a lycra lout just by taking the quickest option for me...i honestly don't know
 

wiggydiggy

Legendary Member
You were within your rights to cycle on the road as you did.

Take whatever information you have on the time/date/location and the identity of the truck (reg/other marking) and complain via letter to Asda of the threatening and abusive behavior you experienced.
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
Next time it happens remind him that ASDA CEO, Andy Bond, is a keen cyclist (did LEJOG for charity in 2009) and ask him what his bosses' boss would think of being squeezed off the road by an ASDA bully.

And, of course, address your complaint to Andy Bond...
 

abo

Well-Known Member
Location
Stockton on Tees
Next time it happens remind him that ASDA CEO, Andy Bond, is a keen cyclist (did LEJOG for charity in 2009) and ask him what his bosses' boss would think of being squeezed off the road by an ASDA bully.

And, of course, address your complaint to Andy Bond...

Don't! He stepped down last year, the person you need to be contacting is Andy Clarke. According to www.ceoemail.com his email address is andy.clarke@asda.co.uk

Dunno how he feels about cycling lol but you could always comment on ASDA's commitment to getting Britain cycling (reverse forks aside) and that this type of maneuver by one of their drivers is more likely to put people off, etc. etc.
 
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kedab

kedab

Veteran
Location
nr cambridge
the term 'punsihment pass' to describe his overtake is always colourful....

i thought that as well - seems to be in the city only this happens, out on the A roads the drivers are much more polite and considerate. ho-hum.

as always, thanks to all for the advice. i appreciate it
 

Jezston

Über Member
Location
London
Write a letter of complaint with a copy sent to Andy Bond then! You get the reg?

We really need to get some kind of public information broadcast out there telling people that cyclists DO NOT have to use cycle paths with the good reasons why they wouldn't. I've had to take to going on the cycle path on some stretches of my commute because of the amount of grief I get if I don't.
 

Mad at urage

New Member
Write a letter of complaint with a copy sent to Andy Bond then! You get the reg?

We really need to get some kind of public information broadcast out there telling people that cyclists DO NOT have to use cycle paths with the good reasons why they wouldn't. I've had to take to going on the cycle path on some stretches of my commute because of the amount of grief I get if I don't.
I was cycling to work the other day, safely filtering between two stationary lines of traffic, when a woman (not a 'professional' AFAIK :whistle: ) on my left opened her window and shouted "Use the bl@@dy cycle path".

Intrigued, I halted by her front wheel :rolleyes:, backed up and asked which cycle path she thought I should be using; "That one there" she answered pointing to the pavement on the left. "That is not a cycle path, that is a pavement for pedestrians" ... "Well you should be using it" . " :laugh: I don't ride on pavements. :tongue: There is a cycle path on the other side of the dual carriageway" I informed her "Well why don't you use it then?", "because it does not go to my destination and because it is shared with pedestrians whilst I cycle at more than 20mph :biggrin: " . "You should be using the cyclepath" " :biggrin: and you should be using the motorway" (thanks to whoever it was - I think on CC, that came up with that one - it was a queue for the motorway she was waiting in :laugh: ).

I'm still not sure how I managed to rattle her cage (sic), I never touched the car and she was stationary long before I arrived and still there when I left!
 
From my own personal experience and not wanting to re-iterate what has been said in previous threads...

  • Cycle paths are often designed with out the cyclist in mind such as bus stops and other street furniture bang in the middle..
  • Most pedestrians assume those cycle paths next to pavements are for the sole purpose of walking on
  • Unlike cars, pedestrians are not that predictable, they can turn almost on a sixpence; at least a car has a turning circle, had more accidents on a cycle path through a park than on the main roads!
So whilst I do use a couple of cycle paths I generally stick to the road

Adrian
 

Buddfox

Veteran
Location
London
Isn't it the case that you're not supposed to cycle in cycle paths / cycle lanes if you're going faster than 18mph?
 

abo

Well-Known Member
Location
Stockton on Tees
Isn't it the case that you're not supposed to cycle in cycle paths / cycle lanes if you're going faster than 18mph?

Think it is more of a recommendation? But I agree with it, I'm wouldn't want to be flying around peds at 20+mph any more than they'd want me doing it...
 
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