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wobbler

Active Member
Location
Wolverhampton
I've been watching a lot of Time Team recently.
I was wondering how all that pottery and stuff got buried?
Is it caused by the wind and rain or mud slides?
I can understand burial mounds being under the soil, because, well, there buried.
But in my mind a bit of old Roman pot would get kicked about on the surface till it was dust.
And some of those mosaic floors are about a metre down who wheelbarrowed all that soil in.
 

machew

Veteran
 

Oldspice

Senior Member
Some get built over and some things are used as foundations for houses, as the items at the time had no historical or monetary value as they do now.
 

asterix

Comrade Member
Location
Limoges or York

They aren't. Some are above ground.

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Natural processes. Mountains erode, plains build up. The earth tries to achieve a level surface (lowest energy state) but keeps getting set back by mountain buiding (Himalaya, Alps etc). As mountains erode some particles are blown away and they have to settle somewhere. So the archaeology gets buried. Same as the dust in your house - if you don't hoover it up eventually it looks like Bleak House.
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
Natural processes. Mountains erode, plains build up. The earth tries to achieve a level surface (lowest energy state) but keeps getting set back by mountain buiding (Himalaya, Alps etc). As mountains erode some particles are blown away and they have to settle somewhere. So the archaeology gets buried. Same as the dust in your house - if you don't hoover it up eventually it looks like Bleak House.

There were no binmen so waste got thrown to one side and where people lived crap accumulated^_^

These.

Also, in some cases rubbish was buried to dispose of it anyway, in just the same way that we put stuff in landfill now. Only instead of whole quarries, people of old would chuck their rubbish in smaller scale pits, maybe those leftover from excavating clay for pots, or the old foundation holes of destroyed timber buildings.

But also, natural processes. After the Romans left, a lot of their abandoned villas and buildings were seemingly deliberately avoided once the useful stone above ground had been robbed out. It wouldn't take long for a layer of dust and leaf mould to build up. Think how autumn leaves build up and form a mush if you don't clear them. Then add in animal poo, dead animals, and plain old dust. Then think of 100 years of that process. Then 500 years, or a 1000. Once a place is hidden, life goes on above and around it, and the debris thrown away gets added to the mix... Soil is just the leftovers from life, once it's been chewed by worms.

All of which means, I spent a lot of each summer for three years, in a hole! (And to my mind, a rather dull hole at that, but never mind.)

(And Asterix is right, there is lots of stuff left above ground too. Now, even the remains of WW2 and the Cold War can be looked at as archaeology).
 

Berties

Fast and careful!
a few building sites in our area of late have had to have digs to ensure the bad ass digger drivers don't smash up any remains that haven't been visible for a few hundred years,the build gets put back and the beardy crew moves in with there lentils and play in the mud for a month,and guess what you get to pay for them,one site was only a small extension and was in a mile of old sarum took weeks to get the dig finished and permission to build,a few of last years chicken bones and a action mans head non moving eyes circa 1977 have to get them put in the museum,
but on the other side my cousin moved to france and every time he went to the garden for the first few years he had to take his metal detector as his house is on the site of a raging ww2 battle ,the beardys were always around and so were the french bomb disposal
 

Canrider

Guru
one site was only a small extension and was in a mile of old sarum took weeks to get the dig finished and permission to build,a few of last years chicken bones and a action mans head non moving eyes circa 1977 have to get them put in the museum
I've underlined the important bit for you.. ;)

Actually, since you seem to be familiar with the findings of that particular mitigation, the report will contain the rationale under which the excavation was deemed necessary. Enlighten us?
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
a few building sites in our area of late have had to have digs to ensure the bad ass digger drivers don't smash up any remains that haven't been visible for a few hundred years,the build gets put back and the beardy crew moves in with there lentils and play in the mud for a month,and guess what you get to pay for them,one site was only a small extension and was in a mile of old sarum took weeks to get the dig finished and permission to build,a few of last years chicken bones and a action mans head non moving eyes circa 1977 have to get them put in the museum,
but on the other side my cousin moved to france and every time he went to the garden for the first few years he had to take his metal detector as his house is on the site of a raging ww2 battle ,the beardys were always around and so were the french bomb disposal

Funny, in my year, I can think of one beard. 50% women, of course, so that helped. And a smattering of vegetarians. But in my dig, the highlight was the end of season whole lamb roasted on a spit. Not many lentils in sight,

What do you do for a living then, that's so worthy?
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
I've underlined the important bit for you.. ;)

Actually, since you seem to be familiar with the findings of that particular mitigation, the report will contain the rationale under which the excavation was deemed necessary. Enlighten us?

Ah, now, do you have a beard these days? Perhaps he has a point.
 

Firestorm

Veteran
Location
Southend on Sea
I went to Leptis Magna in North Libya a while ago a massive Roman settlement which had been buried under centuries of Saharan sand blown up from the desert
It was easy to see how it would have got buried, the streets of Tripoli were being swept 24/7 to keep them sand free
 

Berties

Fast and careful!
I've underlined the important bit for you.. ;)

Actually, since you seem to be familiar with the findings of that particular mitigation, the report will contain the rationale under which the excavation was deemed necessary. Enlighten us?

i let the architect do all the red letter stuff that was what he gets paid for,and if he can't do it direcly he gets some one that can,we just wanted to get going,we have had holdings up on bats as well if the council want to get experts in for any reason you just have to wait!
 

Cyclist33

Guest
Location
Warrington
I've been watching a lot of Time Team recently.
I was wondering how all that pottery and stuff got buried?
Is it caused by the wind and rain or mud slides?
I can understand burial mounds being under the soil, because, well, there buried.
But in my mind a bit of old Roman pot would get kicked about on the surface till it was dust.
And some of those mosaic floors are about a metre down who wheelbarrowed all that soil in.

Dalziel and Pascoe on alibi in a moment, archaeological plotline...
 

Berties

Fast and careful!
Funny, in my year, I can think of one beard. 50% women, of course, so that helped. And a smattering of vegetarians. But in my dig, the highlight was the end of season whole lamb roasted on a spit. Not many lentils in sight,

What do you do for a living then, that's so worthy?

I make money,and have employed a young lad who did his archaeology degree and never used it to any use,so have listened to his tales going through uni,also phil harding who drinks in a pub we have frequented does not have a beard just wild hair
the remark is a stereo type, if i get a bill for holding up a job,for wages and accommodation and all the red tape,it takes a percentage off our bottom line,so like everyone i don't always appreciate this,
not a job of mine but a friend had to have a dig last year it cost over 10k he would not tell me the final figure,
I am glad you enjoy the roast lamb
 
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